Brit firm outsells the big four Jap bike manufacturers.

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Samray · #1 Post by **Samray** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:57 pm

Triumph for UK manufacturing as motorbike firm overtakes rivals

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ufacturing

Nooj · #2 Post by **Nooj** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:55 pm

I'd be surprised if production keeps up with demand once the Tiger 800 gets established on the roads. There are going to be a lot of BMW owners fed up with reliablilty problems who switch to Triumph.

HowardQ · #3 Post by **HowardQ** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:47 pm

Think you must be mistaken Nooj.
BMW bikes do well in the Ride awards every year because they are so reliable don't they.

Then again!
Probably it is just that all their owners turn a blind eye because the dealers deal with the problems well!

Willopotomas · #4 Post by **Willopotomas** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:09 pm

Don't be fooled into thinking that BMW are the be all and end all of the automotive world.. Far from it. German engineering standards are also dropping on the whole from what I can gather. Brit engineering and design is still second to none, it's just most of it finds it's way abroad.

BikerGran · #5 Post by **BikerGran** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:49 pm

After my mate Bob got recovered back from Italy on his 750/4 a very few years ago he decided to get something more reliable for touring so he got a BMW that was rather less aged then the Honda and joined the BMW club for ease of getting spares (hm). He was somewhat surprised to discover that most of the members owned two BMs - so they always had one on the road while the other was in the workshop!

Willopotomas · #6 Post by **Willopotomas** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:22 pm

By far the most reliable bike in my stall is the K100. Ok, it's been off the road now for nearly 5 years, but I've no doubt that when I go to use it next (mid Feb!!) it'll fire up with ease, ride, handle and perform like it did before I was knocked off it. After all, it was stood for 2 years under a tarp in my dads garden before I got my mitts on it!

Nooj · #7 Post by **Nooj** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:44 am

Probably it is just that all their owners turn a blind eye because the dealers deal with the problems well!

That's exactly it, every owner I've spoken to about the issues they've had would all have another BMW for that reason.

But... until now the GS hasn't really had such well thought out competition (Triumph have copied so many GS ideas for the Tiger 800

)

It's only the newer Bee-emms that really suffer (especially the GS range), due to demand. Before Charlie and Ewan did their thang on them they were always the oddball choice, now every estate agent and his pedigree dog wants to be seen 'roughing it' on a GS. BM can't keep up the quality AND the quantity, so have gone for quantity, in bikes and in spares (reckon they saw it coming).

furygan man · #8 Post by **furygan man** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:23 am

And we all know what town Triumph are based in

I think as well as good bikes their branding and marketing has been spot on, went into a showroom recently and it makes you want to buy one and get into the brand...very clever

D-Rider · #9 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:29 pm

I guess we should also point out that although Triumph may be outselling the Japanese manufacturers, this report is based solely on sales in UK ..... I'm just guessing but I expect that Triumph has a long way to go before they are really outselling the "Big-4".

Good luck to them though.

D-Rider · #10 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:32 pm

furygan man wrote:And we all know what town Triumph are based in

Isn't it somewhere in China

..... though I think they still have a small operation to the north of Coventry.

Aladinsaneuk · #11 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:27 pm

that would be hin*******

furygan man · #12 Post by **furygan man** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:43 pm

dion't know why i go on about it, i couldn't wait to leave!!!

Nooj · #13 Post by **Nooj** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:17 pm

D-Rider wrote:
furygan man wrote:And we all know what town Triumph are based in

Isn't it somewhere in China

..... though I think they still have a small operation to the north of Coventry.

Only a few thousand miles out, they have a huge plant in Thailand. Makes their level of build quality even more eyebrow raising, noticeably better then the 'big four'.

D-Rider · #14 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:57 pm

Nooj wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
furygan man wrote:And we all know what town Triumph are based in

Isn't it somewhere in China

..... though I think they still have a small operation to the north of Coventry.

Only a few thousand miles out, they have a huge plant in Thailand. Makes their level of build quality even more eyebrow raising, noticeably better then the 'big four'.

Doh - knew it was far east - just couldn't remember where