Dr Rossi / Gabro / Forza Aprilia Falco chip

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mrapriliafalco · #106 Post by **mrapriliafalco** » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:13 am

I had no choice but to touch a pin,it was not lining up!!! She fired up first time,but not rode the beast yet

D-Rider · #107 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:01 pm

mrapriliafalco wrote:I had no choice but to touch a pin,it was not lining up!!! She fired up first time,but rode the beast yet

Yes most times you'll get away with it, sometimes you'll cause some damage that won't surface until later on and occasionally you can wreck the chip.

I would never straighten pins with my fingers - electronics pliers with insulated handles if it's just the odd pin.

mrapriliafalco · #108 Post by **mrapriliafalco** » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:24 pm

Fingers crossed then !!! I may have use a tiny screwdriver TBH,cant remember.
Really need to pull her out the Garage and go for a Blat

flatlander · #109 Post by **flatlander** » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:07 pm

I ve had them in with pone of the prongs broke before now and it stil ran ok latex gloves or free petrol station ones aren't a bad idea but I've handled loads of circuits etc with no issue

randomsquid · #110 Post by **randomsquid** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:15 pm

flatlander wrote:latex gloves or free petrol station ones aren't a bad idea

Geoff, this is the motorbike forum, not that 'other' one.

Firestarter · #111 Post by **Firestarter** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:10 pm

OK, to set the scene:

Basically, standard Falco, K&N filter, Blueflames (with baffles in). Just come back from a service at Griff's, but the only run out it's had was on the motorway, blowing a gale with torrential rain (so pretty much like a forum ride-out, I guess...) So other things have changed slightly since my last proper ride.

Fitting the chip was fairly straightforward - the old one came out easily, the new one went in using a credit card to help align all the pins. Trim pots were already at 12 o'clock, so no changes there. Firing it up was a bit of a struggle, until I realised I hadn't reconnected the map wire and was running on the open airbox map! Couple of bullet connectors, and it now fires up on the button.

Went out for about 40 miles today - again, blowing a gale, roads were damp and greasy but not raining.

Straight away, even before warmed up, you can tell that everything is a lot smoother. Gone is the hesitation when going from a closed throttle, low speed response is much better which is great when driving over wet manhole covers. Sounds minor, but I've always struggled with low-speed, small throttle openings being snatchy when you're negotiating tight corners, I usually slip the clutch but found that I could just crack the throttle and the bike was responding straight away, rather than pausing before kicking in.

Out in the open, the Gabro chip was faultless. Smooth roll-ons, sharp but clean response to changes in throttle. A sense of urgency was there, with overtakes being completed with ease. Rolling on from low revs, the bike just pulls and pulls. I'm not one to cane it everywhere, but looking down after a quick blast saw some larger numbers on the speedo than I'd normally have. Effortless speed is provided, you really don't realise how hard the bike is driving, but equally it doesn't feel like you have to go fast everywhere - but you have to keep an eye on what you're doing, otherwise license-threats would be easily caused!

Not a 100% fair comparison given the service, but I definitely think there's a big improvement to be had over the stock chip, especially with how the bike delivers the power. Will have to check back later in the week regarding fuel consumption, when I've put a full tank or two through it.

Now, to find an open airbox and open it open a bit more :smt073

spiderwheels · #112 Post by **spiderwheels** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:44 pm

How much are those chips going for these days? Is there a single map version if you know you're never going to open the airbox or fit open cans?

Shetland Woody · #113 Post by **Shetland Woody** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:01 pm

spiderwheels wrote:How much are those chips going for these days? Is there a single map version if you know you're never going to open the airbox or fit open cans?

Do you mean race cans with baffles in, or the standard exhausts?

#114 Post by **mangocrazy** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:34 pm

I think I need a Gabro chip in my life. What's his email address?

spiderwheels · #115 Post by **spiderwheels** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:40 pm

Shetland Woody wrote:
spiderwheels wrote:How much are those chips going for these days? Is there a single map version if you know you're never going to open the airbox or fit open cans?
Do you mean race cans with baffles in, or the standard exhausts?

I mean Remus Grand Prix road legal pipes. I've no idea if the baffles come out or not :)

Firestarter · #116 Post by **Firestarter** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:42 pm

In order of question: €75 for the chip (what I paid, not necessarily current value). The extra map is a bonus, no discount for only having one. Although he would probably put the same map in both locations, but having both gives flexibility and a selling point if you ever get shot of it. I'm not planning on getting an open airbox, but maybe, just maybe...

Race cans with baffles is essentially standard cans, there's little change in terms of performance or impact on fuelling

Gabro can be reached at malarone@gmail.com

fatboy · #117 Post by **fatboy** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:51 pm

very good description Firestarter !

#118 Post by **mangocrazy** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:54 pm

Cheers. Email sent...

fatboy · #119 Post by **fatboy** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:12 pm

erm showing my thick side here...
with a dual map eprom, how do you swap from map to map ?

Shetland Woody · #120 Post by **Shetland Woody** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:40 pm

First map runs with derestriction wire reconnected then to use second map you disconnect again. Hth