sprocket bolts rubbing on swingarm. urgent help needed

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#16 Post by **Kwackerz** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:16 pm

Pics please.. varied close ones from a few angles..
including the spacers..

Alad will probably be along with an idea.. he's whipped his in and out a few times..

plasticpig72 · #17 Post by **plasticpig72** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:58 pm

Kwackerz wrote:Pics please.. varied close ones from a few angles..
including the spacers..

Alad will probably be along with an idea.. he's whipped his in and out a few times..

I will get some photos done tomorrow. I would appreciate any suggestions.

Aladinsaneuk · #18 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:22 pm

I await the photos

Try swapping the spacers over....

I also wonder if the right bearing is in...

plasticpig72 · #19 Post by **plasticpig72** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:50 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:I await the photos

Try swapping the spacers over....

I also wonder if the right bearing is in...

To be honest I think you are right, I think the carrier bearing may be wrong. The spacer sits too far into the carrier in my opinion.

bigun · #20 Post by **bigun** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:12 pm

Take the wheel out and pop the sprocket/carrier off. There should be quite a big spacer on the rear of the carrier too. I don't think it'll make any difference to what you're experiencing if it is missing but it'd be worth checking just in case (I nearly forgot to put mine back in yesterday!)

#21 Post by **mangocrazy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:09 pm

bigun wrote:Take the wheel out and pop the sprocket/carrier off. There should be quite a big spacer on the rear of the carrier too. I don't think it'll make any difference to what you're experiencing if it is missing but it'd be worth checking just in case (I nearly forgot to put mine back in yesterday!)

I got sick of my spacer dropping out, so stuck it to the bearing with a dab of silicone sealant. It doesn't drop out any more...

plasticpig72 · #22 Post by **plasticpig72** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:08 pm

mangocrazy wrote:
bigun wrote:Take the wheel out and pop the sprocket/carrier off. There should be quite a big spacer on the rear of the carrier too. I don't think it'll make any difference to what you're experiencing if it is missing but it'd be worth checking just in case (I nearly forgot to put mine back in yesterday!)
I got sick of my spacer dropping out, so stuck it to the bearing with a dab of silicone sealant. It doesn't drop out any more...

Right further examination. You will see from the pics that one of the carrier bearings is screwed completely. The is no spacer behind the carrier just the one in the pic at the front of the carrier.

I have seen a carrier on ebay so may just get that to ensure all is as it should be. My overall opinion is that some people should not be allowed bikes and would you believe this guy has his own auto workshop business!!!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93424985@N ... 818938347/

Aladinsaneuk · #23 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:23 pm

Think I have a spare carrier in my reserve garage
let me know if you want me to go check....

#24 Post by **mangocrazy** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:27 pm

That looks horrible - sorry. I can see so many things wrong there it really isn't funny. Let's see...

1. It looks like an inner bearing race has welded itself to the wheel spindle at some point. I'd be looking for a new wheel spindle on eBlag, if I was you.

2. The sprocket carrier bearings should be the 2RS type; i.e 2 Rubber Seals, one on each side (obviously). The inner bearing in your pic looks shot to hell and has no rubber seal.

3. There should be two bearings and both should have sleeves on the face closest to the wheel. I can only see one bearing in your pic, although that may be me mis-reading the pic. This fiche from Ultimate parts shows how the sprocket carrier bearings should look:

https://www.ultimateparts.net/aprilia/c ... EM&i=18436

Note that there are two off parts numbers 23 and 24 in the sprocket carrier. Is yours like that? Frankly, I doubt it.

As it happens I've just done all this stuff on my sprocket carrier, so it's fresh in the memory.

Aladinsaneuk · #25 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:32 pm

And yep - the correct technical term is "shagged"

plasticpig72 · #26 Post by **plasticpig72** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:51 pm

mangocrazy wrote:That looks horrible - sorry. I can see so many things wrong there it really isn't funny. Let's see...

1. It looks like an inner bearing race has welded itself to the wheel spindle at some point. I'd be looking for a new wheel spindle on eBlag, if I was you.

2. The sprocket carrier bearings should be the 2RS type; i.e 2 Rubber Seals, one on each side (obviously). The inner bearing in your pic looks shot to hell and has no rubber seal.

3. There should be two bearings and both should have sleeves on the face closest to the wheel. I can only see one bearing in your pic, although that may be me mis-reading the pic. This fiche from Ultimate parts shows how the sprocket carrier bearings should look:

https://www.ultimateparts.net/aprilia/c ... EM&i=18436

Note that there are two off parts numbers 23 and 24 in the sprocket carrier. Is yours like that? Frankly, I doubt it.

As it happens I've just done all this stuff on my sprocket carrier, so it's fresh in the memory.

I've tracked down another spindle and carrier off fleabay, it can't be any worse than mine. Thanks for everyone's input. I have a sneaky suspicion this will not be the last of my problems.

Thanks again

plasticpig72 · #27 Post by **plasticpig72** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:55 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Think I have a spare carrier in my reserve garage
let me know if you want me to go check....

Just been told the one on ebay is not for sale now, so if you could look I would be grateful.

Aladinsaneuk · #28 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:12 am

will look tonight - PM me your mobile number or email address and i will photo what i have

plasticpig72 · #29 Post by **plasticpig72** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:08 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:will look tonight - PM me your mobile number or email address and i will photo what i have

Got a phone call from a friend of mine to say someone he know is breaking a falco it's an 01 plate with 12k miles. He's sold the engine for £300 and the almost new blue flame exhausts for £100 but the rest is available if anyone is interested, I can let you have his number.