Falco clip ons maybe for sale

Chat for Falco Owners.

Moderators: Aladinsaneuk, MartDude, D-Rider, Moderators

Post Reply
Message
Author
wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

Falco clip ons maybe for sale

#1 Post by wayno » Tue May 04, 2010 9:49 pm

I think I have finally got my hands on a set of Falco clip ons, as these seem to be rare as the proverbial, and obscenely expensive from Aprilia, I'm thinking that if they're not too much hassle to make size wise, I may approach a local machining company and have a few sets knocked up.

This of course will only be viable if a few people are after some otherwoise they'll cost as much as the originals.

If anyone is interested give me a shout and if there's enough wanted I'll see how mcuh I can get some made for from billet ali.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#2 Post by wayno » Wed May 05, 2010 2:12 pm

I'm looking at something like this with a removeable tube for ease of replacement.

I was thinking of having the tube slide in, then clamping down the end of it with a screw and washer/cap. In order to stop it sliding in I was thinking about tacking a little grub screw in the side, this will mean it will be removeable, but not come out under normal riding (clamping it on the diamter would take up a lot of room).

This is just a quite knock up I did today, the sizes are complete quess work, if anyone would like to help out with offsets/angles etc. I could get on with it further until 1 turns up I can measure.

Any ideas just let me know.

Image
Image
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

User avatar
mangocrazy
Admin
Admin
Posts: 3944
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:24 pm
Location: Sheffield, UK

#3 Post by mangocrazy » Wed May 05, 2010 2:45 pm

Nice idea, Wayno. I've been looking at altering the bar setup on my Falco for a while now, but I would prefer to reduce the overall width of the bars, as well as providing room for my funky new radial master cylinder.

I tried fiitting the radial m/c on the standard bars, and the bloody thing clouts the fuse box, so I obviously need to relocate a number of key components. I've purchased a set of bars off eBay (that haven't arrived yet, as they're coming from the States), that I'm going to have a play with and see what I can come up with. These are the ones:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HANDLEBAR-CLIP-ON ... 3a52f5f416

Might give you a few ideas...?

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#4 Post by wayno » Wed May 05, 2010 3:07 pm

I looked at these, but they look the same as the mille ones or the aftermarket renthal ones, which I was told wouldn't fit as they would clout the fuse box.

I've just been looking at some others and I reckon if I change this design I can make them with a small amount of adjustment. I'll do a bit more fiddling with the design, it's not like I'm busy at work so I may as well do this.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

User avatar
joecrx
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 1150
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: scotland

#5 Post by joecrx » Wed May 05, 2010 4:54 pm

interesting , i like the hight of mine but a good replacement in case of an off would be handy ,
what do these or any afermarket bars feel like without the anti-vib thingy in it , i know my right hand goes a wee bit numb after a while caus my replacement hasent not got got them in it , but im sure my last one did and did not have any problems , maybe im just holding on to tight

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#6 Post by wayno » Wed May 05, 2010 6:09 pm

joecrx wrote:interesting , i like the hight of mine but a good replacement in case of an off would be handy ,
what do these or any afermarket bars feel like without the anti-vib thingy in it , i know my right hand goes a wee bit numb after a while caus my replacement hasent not got got them in it , but im sure my last one did and did not have any problems , maybe im just holding on to tight
Is the anti-vibration thing part of the bar end weight? I was hopinh to be able to make them to accept the standard bar ends.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

philgro64
Despatch Rider
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:28 pm

#7 Post by philgro64 » Wed May 05, 2010 7:07 pm

Wayno,

What cad programme do you use for your designs? I'm looking for something like that to show a prject i'm working on.

Cheers Phil

User avatar
joecrx
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 1150
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: scotland

#8 Post by joecrx » Wed May 05, 2010 7:44 pm

here they are items 4,5,,6,,,,,,,6 screws into the bars to accept the original bar end
Image

User avatar
D-Rider
Admin
Admin
Posts: 15560
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:09 pm
Location: Coventry

#9 Post by D-Rider » Wed May 05, 2010 9:12 pm

OK ... an idea to improve on the standard ones.

I've noticed that my heated grips to not warm up evenly. The throttle hand warms up significantly better than the clutch hand .... and I think I know why
:smt002

The throttle grip fits over the plastic throttle grip tube that rotates on the clipon.
The other side, the grip fits directly on to the metal clipon. I think this acts as a dirty-great heat-sink whereas the throttle side is insulated by the plastic tube.

I'm thinking that if the clutch side clipon bar was made of slightly smaller external diameter tubing (inside would have to be the same diameter for the bar end weights) and a plastic sleeve put round it to bring it up to the normal diameter, it could be a great improvement.

Just a thought.
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
-- Albert Einstein

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#10 Post by wayno » Wed May 05, 2010 9:32 pm

That's simple enough to do if you step the outside you could use the standard diameter holder and just have a different tube. The problem may come in the inside diameter, depending on what diameter the standard ones are, but if you went smaller to suit the outside you may be too small to take the internal bar end etc.

Once I get a standard one to measure up I'll look into it. If you did this you'd obviously have to superglue the plastic sleeve on, and you would still get different temperatures as the throttle slider has an air gap which acts like double glazing and stops the heat reaching you so muh. I would certainly make them closer to even though.

By the way Joe it's solidworks, we use it at work, unless you know someone who uses it it's bloody expensive.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

philgro64
Despatch Rider
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:28 pm

#11 Post by philgro64 » Wed May 05, 2010 9:40 pm

thanks Wayno it looks it

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#12 Post by wayno » Wed May 05, 2010 9:50 pm

Lucky for me I have unlimited access to it at work, and spend most of the day dicking around with stuff like this to ease the boredom, maybe I'll try and model my entire bike in 3D :smt001
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

User avatar
Chabby
Clubman Racer
Clubman Racer
Posts: 260
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:20 pm
Location: Tyneside

#13 Post by Chabby » Fri May 07, 2010 10:06 pm

These guys do what appear to be good quality clip ons for a reasonable price.

They also do different heights for the less flexible.

They're also Italian so there shouldn't be any transplant rejection problems.

http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/handl ... d_247.html

wayno
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 904
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire

#14 Post by wayno » Sat May 08, 2010 11:12 am

Those are a good price, I'm not having much luck getting a good price for the ones I designed, they only price I had so far was 180 a set, which is not much better than the originals.

I'm not sure about the magnolia colour, why don't they just go black.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa

Post Reply