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#16 Post by D-Rider » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:57 pm

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Dalemac wrote:Bit of rubbish advice form whoever suggested an external graphics card - they are designed for laptops!

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#17 Post by Dalemac » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:11 pm

PCIE 2.0 cards will run in PCI 1.1 (x16) ports, according to here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/299941/pci-e ... ess-1-slot

So you could probably pick up a relatively cheap PCIE 2.0 card for about 50 quid which should run those games.

I would be tempted by something like this: http://www.ksn-online.com/products/Comp ... did=241457

Depends on how much you want to spend, and how much wattage your PC can supply.

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#18 Post by MartDude » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:54 pm

Thanks for the replies. You've given me plenty to ponder.

If I decide to upgrade the graphics card, I think I'll take it to a friend who runs a computer repair business here; then I've someone to bollock if it goes wrong.

I must admit I was a tad disappointed when these games wouldn't run - not that that's a major issue in itself (the games were only just over a tenner) - I'm starting to go off my rocker with frustration & boredom. I've had 3 weeks off work so far, probably another 2-3 weeks to follow, can't drive for another 3 weeks, can't use my right arm for anything too strenuous - so no serious bike fettling (I'd wanted to get a few bits, like the centre stand, rear sub-frame & exhaust off for re-powder-coating/thorough cleaning). Can't/shouldn't use my right hand much with a mouse, so using the left hand, which I'm still finding awkward. Hey ho.
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#19 Post by Dalemac » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:02 pm

So, did you try upgrading the graphics driver? its worth a shot even if it does not work - and it is completely free.

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#20 Post by MartDude » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:04 pm

Dalemac wrote:So, did you try upgrading the graphics driver? its worth a shot even if it does not work - and it is completely free.

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#21 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:09 pm

upgrading may be a problem as some dell cases are buggers... also - the PSU is low - so be aware


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#22 Post by BikerGran » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:44 pm

Take it to a small, local computer shop Mart - my knowledge is probably about the same level as yours and that's what I do. Little shop in town, a one man band, he doesn't charge the earth and does a good job, saves a lot of stress!
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#23 Post by flatlander » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:51 pm

Graphics Card:PCI Express x16 Graphics
External Connector: 15-hole connector
Graphics Card A circuit board fitted to a computer containing the necessary video memory and other electronics to provide a bitmap display. Adaptors vary in the resolution (number of pixels) and number of colours they can display, and in the refresh rate they support. These parameters are also limited by the monitor to which the adaptor is connected.


If you upgrade the graphics you may as well do the on board as well if you haven't already
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/mpartsp ... B4A5CA7304



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Inspiron 530 has a hardware limitation of 4GB, this is the way it has been designed by Dell. This limit is regardless of the Operating System. but a 64 bit OS will use all 4 a 32 bit will use 3-3.5gb but will still take advantage of the dual channel

You may need to look at your monitor as well

On the plus side Dells arent that vhard to take apart especially if you have the use of both arms :smt003

ps I could probably pop over and fit it if you do get anything
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#24 Post by MartDude » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:04 pm

Thanks, mate. I'll digest that and may take you up on that.

However, Pete has been trying to talk me into getting an Xbox instead.
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#25 Post by flatlander » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:15 pm

well to be fair if you want to play games a gaming machine would be a good bet :smt003
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#26 Post by MartDude » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:17 pm

Upgrading or replacing the PC I could probably get past SWMBO; Xbox, no - too much self-indulgence, when the money could be spent on something useful but boring.
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#27 Post by flatlander » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:19 pm

you can stream films to it thus providing access to ro,mantic home movies via love film etc :smt002 and it clears up space
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#28 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:41 am

that dell is fairly old, and to play more modern games, probably needs to be upgraded - and not just the graphics card

that is likely to be north of 100 quid - indeed if it could be done (I have looked at upgrading dell's in the past - that model has a very low spec power supply unit and that governs the choice of graphics card..... and the case may well not take many cards - its very small.....

to play the odd game game etc, i would strongly suggest an xbox 360 or a ps3 - I have both so have no preference

due to the choice of games available;e, i would go for xbox

under 200 for a new unit - or get a reconditioned one from game - 12 month guarantee and then spend some money on a stack of second hand games


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#29 Post by D-Rider » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:41 am

It just so happens I have a brand new Xbox360 sitting by my desk - arrived 5 mins ago.

Amazon was the place: £159.98 (delivered) for the 250GB version (the 4GB one was about £30 cheaper). They and Currys were the cheapest I could find online.

I've bought it so that we can play the games from the one my son had and also use the Kinect I bought last year.
My son has now upgraded to a PS3 following his Xbox dying for the second time.
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#30 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:49 pm

and yes, do get the 250gb version - the 4gb is a little limited save game wise etc

oh - budget in the future for 25 quid for the xbox live gold online thingie - i think it is worth it

do not worry about a kinnect..... if you wanted one, it could be added later


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