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#16 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:32 pm

Because they went with official aprilia figures...

I have never yet yet ran out of fuel, though I have come - in my opinion close - I have never got more than 17.5 litres in


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#17 Post by D-Rider » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:35 pm

I think Pete has got 200 miles out of a tank - but his bike was on the back of an RAC truck at the time.

You won't get 200 miles from a tank with a Falco - that's just a fact of life.

Aprilia's sport-tourer, the Futura, has a 20.5 litre tank but I don't think you'll get close to 200 miles from a tank on one of those either.

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#18 Post by wayofthedarkhand » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:39 pm

Did aprilia change the spec or did they just lie?

I tour once or twice a year and every other week have travel on a 300-400mile round trip.

The zx9r did a decent enough job, but got written off.

Love the look of the falco and the all the mods that can be done to it.

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#19 Post by Salty » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:01 pm

I don't understand though why most reviews state 21l
I went through the same exercise as yourself before buying one.
I suspect a lot of the information in these reviews is plagiarised by lazy sods who can't be arsed to do a bit of research and so the duff info keeps getting repeated.
I get about 130 miles to reserve light and then another 30 on open roads. Stuck behind a slow vehicle on a narrow road it drops to 20. Found out the hard way!

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#20 Post by D-Rider » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:13 pm

wayofthedarkhand wrote:Did aprilia change the spec or did they just lie?

I tour once or twice a year and every other week have travel on a 300-400mile round trip.

The zx9r did a decent enough job, but got written off.

Love the look of the falco and the all the mods that can be done to it.
No Aprilia didn't really make any significant changes to the spec. - certainly not the tank.
  • They changed the forks (showa to marzocchi)
    They made a change to the sidestand switch (metal pin rather than plastic)
    They painted it different colours
    They improved the clutch a bit
    They changed the clutch oil jet from a .75 to a .6 (but best to change again to a .4)
    They changed the switchgear a bit (the very last ones even lost the ability to turn the lights off !!!!)
    The seat was improved a bit
    The air intakes to the airbox were changed a bit
    There is a rumour they improved the shock a bit ... but it's crap anyway so whichever one needs upgrading
Think that's about it
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#21 Post by Viking » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:23 pm

I have managed to get just over 180 miles from a tank of fuel. It was a lot of open-road cruising at about 60 miles/hr in top gear. I think I put 18 litres in when I filled up.

(I have the actual numbers at home - I'll add them in here if I remember.)
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#22 Post by back_marker » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:41 pm

Did they happen to make a low capacity Falco or something?

Since I use the odometer to monitor how much fuel in my tank, I can honestly say I generally get 150-180 miles to the light with ordinary riding and 200 miles to the light on the motorway.
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#23 Post by HowardQ » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:48 pm

First of all, welcome to the site! :smt006
You're right to consider a Falco, (Best bike I have ever owned).
I'm a bit confused about why you need 200 miles per tank.
If you buy a Falco, (or any other nice bike I suppose), you will want to enjoy it, regular long distance economy runs are not a lot of fun, so fit in an extra fuel stop!
I usually fill up by habit when the trip gets over 120, possibly 130. which is normally before the fuel light comes on.
I have had it up to 148 miles once before the fuel light, but that's once in 7 years.
Surprisingly for me if I ride my 9R F1P pretty carefully I can get it over 50 mpg without being silly, best ever figure was 58 mpg (good old flatside carbs!).
Wouldn't want to rely on an ST1050 regularly reaching 200 plus miles on a tank although it should be possible.
As I said earlier, better to make an extra fuel stop and enjoy the ride more IMHO.
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#24 Post by HowardQ » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:51 pm

back_marker wrote:Did they happen to make a low capacity Falco or something?

Since I use the odometer to monitor how much fuel in my tank, I can honestly say I generally get 150-180 miles to the light with ordinary riding and 200 miles to the light on the motorway.
Are you sure your Falco isn't set for kms per hour?
Can't see how you get anywhere near that otherwise!
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#25 Post by MartDude » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:55 pm

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Aprilia's sport-tourer, the Futura, has a 20.5 litre tank but I don't think you'll get close to 200 miles from a tank on one of those either.

Sorry
OH YES YOU CAN

I've had ca. 220. 200 isn't uncommon. Usual for me is 170 - 180 before the reserve light comes on (but I've a smaller front sprocket).

IIRC, standard Fut gearing is a little higher than the Falco's. And the engine's in a slightly lower state of tune (113 bhp, 72 lb/ft), with softer cams.
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#26 Post by wayofthedarkhand » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:03 pm

If its a 19l tank, then at the rated 42mpg he would get around 175 to dry.

I mostly use the bike for fun, and for that the falco seems good. When doing distance though I hate to have to stop so many times. Went from Norwich to reading recently on the 9 and had to stop as soon I got into reading, which ate into my journy time. Odd as on a previous trip to north Wales I got 220 miles to almost dry.

Oh I should add that I'm not a fast rider. By that I mean I barely ever get near the redline or hoon about. Although its a lot of fun on the odd occasion I do.

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#27 Post by HowardQ » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:22 pm

With the Falco it is very easy to ride it fast without going anywhere near the red line. Can have a nice fast ride, never go above 7 or 8k and really enjoy it. The low down torque is absolutely addictive but a bit sudden until you get used to it, once you do it's :smt007
The problem with my 9R is that it is nice and easy low down but real fun is at silly speeds.
Then again if I was trying for anything like your 220 miles, I'd only really attempt it with the Kwack.
As you say, 175 to dry should be possible, but you don't really want to run to dry, with restraint, I would say an easy (ish) 160 is something you could rely on.
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#28 Post by flatlander » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:23 pm

I think that is something you have to factor in I guess most of us have at least one mod that may effect economy. My figures are based on grin mph plus or minus 10 ish so going that bit steadier may make some of the difference you are seeing. I managed to commute and tour on a 1200 bandit for many years and probably got similar ish figures. The Falco is smoother and for me at least induces more constant speeds rather than bursts of acceleration which I notice the difference on even on one tankful which costs about 20 odd quid

To be honest I've not long had one and as Howard said best bike I've ever owned and yes I still love bandits so I feel like I'm cheating when I say that :smt010
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#29 Post by D-Rider » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:26 pm

MartDude wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
Aprilia's sport-tourer, the Futura, has a 20.5 litre tank but I don't think you'll get close to 200 miles from a tank on one of those either.

Sorry
OH YES YOU CAN

I've had ca. 220. 200 isn't uncommon. Usual for me is 170 - 180 before the reserve light comes on (but I've a smaller front sprocket).

IIRC, standard Fut gearing is a little higher than the Falco's. And the engine's in a slightly lower state of tune (113 bhp, 72 lb/ft), with softer cams.
Excellent - that's good to know
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#30 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:30 pm

Norwich heh!

I live near there....


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