Just realised how big the Falco is.

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Tonyunn · #31 Post by **Tonyunn** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:25 am

So a clamp style adjustment, I will look at the weekend under daylight to see how it is set.
cheers

Dalemac · #32 Post by **Dalemac** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:27 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:how many rings do you have showing ?

since i moved the bars over the triple crown, the steering is quicker - i had it set to 1 ring showing before - three - to enable the bar move, is just right for me. I think Keef - Hisnibbs - has 4 or more showing....

and tell me about snow - i had to use the bike last winter during the terrible cold snap....

2 or 3. dont want to go any higher on the rear suspension otherwise i wont be able to touch the floor :P

Dale

flatlander · #33 Post by **flatlander** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:53 am

I'm really not sure about the direction this convesation appears to be heading in

Tonyunn · #34 Post by **Tonyunn** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:52 am

6 (six) rings showing on the front forks, if we are talking about the top of the actual fork legs themselves and not the smaller adjusters inside them.

Nooj · #35 Post by **Nooj** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:02 pm

Having had four Fazers (FZS and FZ6) in the house and a Falco, I'd say they weren't that far apart in weight, the Falco being fractionally heavier, but not much when all bikes are fully fueled. Ditching the OE end cans will knock a substantial amount of weight off a Falco, something silly like 11kg!

I didn't find the Falco big compared to my Fazers, longer due to the riding position, but not bigger. I actually think it's quite a small bike compared to most of it's competition.

If you're getting surprised by 'slow' bikes coming up behind you and mud on the corners I'd highly recommend further training, either with IAM or preferably with RoSPA. It'll make you both quicker AND safer.

Also it's well worth getting your suspension set up properly, it can make a dramatic difference in the way your bike behaves, and yes, you WILL notice the difference!

#36 Post by **mangocrazy** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:26 pm

Tonyunn wrote:6 (six) rings showing on the front forks, if we are talking about the top of the actual fork legs themselves and not the smaller adjusters inside them.

That's set up quite definitely 'on the nose' ; i.e. it should change direction very nicely set up like that. When you say six rings, I take it that there are 5 'blocks' above the top yoke? If so, that's how mine is set up.

The smaller adjusters inside them are the fork preload adjusters. The central screw head adjuster with a pip stamped into the surround is the rebound damping adjuster.

Tonyunn · #37 Post by **Tonyunn** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:56 am

Thanks for that and after checking I definatley have a Sachs shock so I need to look to shift that before next summer.

Just need to go through the least worst change, Ohlins too expensive and i wouldn't get the benefit so something like a Hagon or Maxton, but I am sure I will find some advice on here.

Aladinsaneuk · #38 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:07 am

ok... which colour sachs shock?

the original aprilia shock was blue for the falco

the mille sachs shock was yellow - AND is a decent piece of kit

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/show ... p?t=162440 has a straight forward list of all the shocks that aprilia fitted to the mille/tuono models - and wether or not they will fit on to the falco - and if so what is needed

for my money, for the average rider, i firmly believe that the original mille white spring shock - also a sachs unit, is the simplest and most cost effective route

Reasons why:
they are relatively cheap
they do not need any other linkages etc
they have all the adjustments need

Downside

Budget for a refurb/service - around 130 quid i believe - and get the valve recessed at the same time!

Case in point - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOOK-APRILIA- ... 1e68a5b63f will probably sell for around 50 to 75 quid at a guess - factor in a refurb and you are talking around 200 quid - which is less than buying a new shock with same amount of adjustability from maxton etc

Tonyunn · #39 Post by **Tonyunn** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:30 am

Cheers for that.

Nitron seem to be the one that is the best straight swap (price, ease of fitment) and they come in at £350

Aladinsaneuk · #40 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:41 am

as i said....

i refurbed shock is a lot cheaper....

and for that kind of money - 350 - you are talking about ohlins territory (Purchase and service an actual ohlins is around 200 ish to 300 for the top of the range jobbie....)

D-Rider · #41 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:58 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:as i said....

i refurbed shock is a lot cheaper....

and for that kind of money - 350 - you are talking about ohlins territory (Purchase and service an actual ohlins is around 200 ish to 300 for the top of the range jobbie....)

Dunno - think you're a bit light on the ohlins pricing there Pete. Those are more purchase price with service on top of that.

flatlander · #42 Post by **flatlander** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:02 am

bought all 3 of my Ohlins for less that 175 quid (each)

I cant recall what I paid for the white and the blue was well ....

D-Rider · #43 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:08 am

flatlander wrote:bought all 3 of my Ohlins for less that 175 quid (each) I cant recall what I paid for the white and the blue was well ....

Yes indeed you can buy them for less than £200 - but add servicing / refurbishment and you'll be approaching the £300 mark.
There are plenty of them that go for a fair bit more too

Tonyunn · #44 Post by **Tonyunn** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:15 am

That shock on ebay has a big nasty looking crack in the mounting eyelet, unless that can be replaced or refurbished I would be reluctant to take it on.

Aladinsaneuk · #45 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:25 am

I did not look at it closely tbh - was more for a pricing guide as to what is out there....

I have bought several white spring shocks - prices from 25 to 65 quid

I have also bought several ohlins shocks - cheapest was 150 - but needed a service

I guess the point is, dust off your feathers, maintain a suitable predatory pose and do your best vulture impression - watch evilbay and other forums and see what comes up - and do your home work so you know the likely cost of servicing/refurbs etc so you know the likely full cost

I am guessing that the shock is ok - but could do with changing - so it is not something that needs to be done over the next month..... I am fairly certain that a yellow sachs and linkages will be coming up for sale here shortly - I am also aware that there may be some linkages coming up soon....