Fueling Gremlins

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wavey · #31 Post by **wavey** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:31 pm

As for fuel, I filled up 45 miles before the problem started, only got 11 litres in. Shell not supermarket. So probably not petrol but you never know.

flatlander · #32 Post by **flatlander** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:55 am

Know I am going to create a to do list for spring and running cleaner will be on it ! :)

Falcorob · #33 Post by **Falcorob** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:09 pm

I've had the poor fuelling issue a few times. Mainly after a heavy downpour which has led me to think that I'm getting water in the tank. It usually resolves itself after a couple of tankfuls have been used, so long as I run right down to reserve. I was thinking of investing in a new filler cap seal to see if that solves it once and for all but may be tempted to try some injector cleaner too now after reading this thread on the premise that it won't do any harm.

DavShill · #34 Post by **DavShill** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:35 pm

Been out again this afternoon and all seems ok. Fingers crossed it was just poor fuel or the additive has done a fine job.

wavey · #35 Post by **wavey** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:13 pm

Got the bike back this morning, ran it for about 20 miles all seems OK so far.

Aprilia mechanic said it was probably a carbon build-up in the throttle bodies causing a disturbed air flow. So there!

I need to give it a long run out but wont have time for a week or so.

Willopotomas · #36 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:19 am

wavey wrote: Aprilia mechanic said it was probably a carbon build-up in the throttle bodies causing a disturbed air flow. So there!

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.. Carbon?? In the throttle bodies? Shouldn't be there in the first place! A "disturbed air flow" as they call it wouldn't cause the problems you've had. I'm guessing they've taken it all off for a clean and come up with some fancy sounding reason behind the extortionate bill you've probably been landed with.

anzacinexile · #37 Post by **anzacinexile** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:51 pm

Willopotomas wrote:
wavey wrote: Aprilia mechanic said it was probably a carbon build-up in the throttle bodies causing a disturbed air flow. So there!
Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.. Carbon?? In the throttle bodies? Shouldn't be there in the first place! A "disturbed air flow" as they call it wouldn't cause the problems you've had. I'm guessing they've taken it all off for a clean and come up with some fancy sounding reason behind the extortionate bill you've probably been landed with.

My feelings exactly, absolute rubbish and bullshit

Probably just cleaning the injectors cured it but I need to justify my HUGE bill - thank you

wavey · #38 Post by **wavey** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:15 pm

Invoice Details
"1 Hour Investigation
Clean Stepper motor
Clean Throttle Manifolds
Power Commander Fitted To Bike, This Could Be Cause Of Problems"

I very much doubt the PC had anything to do with it.

I also had them do a basic service while they had it in the garage.

Actually 2 hours billed @ £44 per hour plus £48 for parts (oil, filter, washer, bulb, lubes)

Total bill £163 not too bad I thought.

Willopotomas · #39 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:00 pm

For a dealer, thats not too bad at all. A friend of mine was quoted over £600 to do the valve clearances on a 600 Bandit.. The dealer advised him not to take to any 'back street mechanics' as they won't know what they're doing and will bugger the engine..lol Needless to say he bought the bike to us where we did a full service, valve clearances, new clutch, removed the EGR system and balanced the carbs for a mere fraction of the cost.

anzacinexile · #40 Post by **anzacinexile** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:30 pm

wavey wrote:Clean Stepper motor

Dont want to piss on your bonfire but BULLSHIT again.

WHAT stepper motor, the only stepper motor on the Falcos is the rev counter

Methinks your plonker is being pulled

flatlander · #41 Post by **flatlander** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Willopotomas wrote: quoted over £600 to do the valve clearances on a 600 Bandit..

to do what? Had 6/7 bandits never had to do anything like that lol

Willopotomas · #42 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:31 pm

The valves had recessed in to the head on this one. 40K+ miles on it.. last service was nearly 10,000 miles ago and never had the valve clearences done. He's had the bike from new, so knows this..lol. 5 exhaust and 6 inlet were tight!

D-Rider · #43 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:57 pm

anzacinexile wrote:
wavey wrote:Clean Stepper motor

Dont want to piss on your bonfire but BULLSHIT again.

WHAT stepper motor, the only stepper motor on the Falcos is the rev counter

Methinks your plonker is being pulled

Definitely

And even if you had one (other than in the clocks), I'd find it difficult to understand why cleaning it might be the thing to do!

Aladinsaneuk · #44 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:40 am

2 hours labour... and they did a mini service as well?

am willing to bet that some injector cleaner was added to the tank, and carb cleaner sprayed through the throttle bodies....

wavey · #45 Post by **wavey** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:26 pm

Finally got time for a ride out today, only 75 miles but she's running fine. Although maybe a tiny little bit 'fluffy' at very low revs. Probably time for new plugs, think I'll get some Iridiums and see how they go.