140 bhp

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ste · #1 Post by **ste** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:48 pm

On Ebay a 140 bhp falco for sale

Aladinsaneuk · #2 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:33 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aprilia-SL1000-Fa ... _500wt_898

well..... i know i made a typo once that said i was aiming for 140...... and a forum regular has posted a dyno that shows 140 which i feel is hopeful, i reckon that the seller may be thinking of 140 at the crank.....

I think i am currently on 123 to 125..... and hope to hit 127 ish next year...... and i have done more than changed the chip and exhaust

furygan man · #3 Post by **furygan man** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:55 pm

...... and a forum regular has posted a dyno that shows 140 which i feel is hopeful...

Erm was that me??

...137.71!! So then the machine was faulty, the guy was having a laugh at my expence or i've Photoshopped the printout???

Aladinsaneuk · #4 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:13 pm

none of those!

rather i think the dyno is out calibration wise and the results are out - and this can be quite common!

the curves etc on your dyno are what i would expect to see - what would be interesting is either my bike on the same dyno, or your bike on my local dyno

i suspect the graphs would be the same, but the numbers different

furygan man · #5 Post by **furygan man** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:35 pm

[/quote]rather i think the dyno is out calibration wise and the results are out - and this can be quite common

...This being the Dyno machine that was used throughout the 2010 season by BSB's Gary Mason and the 'Riders' Ducati squad??? You seem to be making an asumption without knowing what happened there on the day in question, i had my bike worked on for 2 hours, 2/3's of the way through the season. Seems my in experience causes some doubt?

Sorry to go on Pete and i won't anymore...i just wanted my say after all i never came on shouting 'hey look at my results!'...right going for a lie down....been a long day

#6 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:42 pm

When i saw '140bhp' as the subject of a thread in the Falco forum, I though it was the 1st of April.

..having seen the ad and the description of the work done, (chip and cans) I now know without the shadow of a doubt it is indeed the 1st of April. Dunno about the 137, not bothered as it's achievable and i dunno what was done, but a flat 140, documented, with only can and chips is nigh on fantasy, like leeds getting promoted this season.. that extra 3bhp takes a lot of getting hold of..

#7 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:45 pm

Oh and re: dynos, if the bike is strapped down, that will affect the results over a bike that's not strapped down... cant remember the whys or wherefores.

D-Rider · #8 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:10 pm

furygan man wrote:
rather i think the dyno is out calibration wise and the results are out - and this can be quite common
...This being the Dyno machine that was used throughout the 2010 season by BSB's Gary Mason and the 'Riders' Ducati squad??? You seem to be making an asumption without knowing what happened there on the day in question, i had my bike worked on for 2 hours, 2/3's of the way through the season. Seems my in experience causes some doubt?

Sorry to go on Pete and i won't anymore...i just wanted my say after all i never came on shouting 'hey look at my results!'...right going for a lie down....been a long day

As I pointed out at the time you posted the graphs previously, the before and after results were not done on a comparative basis - the charts showed that different compensation settings had been used for the two runs.
Either an "oversight" by the dyno operator or they made a deliberate change of settings to make it look as though the tweaking they had done had made a huge difference.

Of course they probably have improved the bike somewhat but there's no way a falco with only minor mods will truly make 137 bhp. Compensations can make a massive difference to the numbers - and should be applied with care.

Hansie · #9 Post by **Hansie** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:46 pm

My Falco does have 140 bhp! (added 22bhp)
Did take heads, pistons,barrels, akra evo 6 and a special Gabro chip to get there!
After winter Gabro will make an even improved chip.

#10 Post by **Kwackerz** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:59 pm

Long time no see, Welcome back Hansie!

Nice dynograph!

What did you have done in the way of the head, pistons and barrels?

Hansie · #11 Post by **Hansie** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:23 pm

Heads,piston and barrels are from a stock 2009 RSV.
Nice little project!

Still read here now and then,dont post much.

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:37 pm

Hi Hansie - good to hear from you

Nice graphs

Aladinsaneuk · #13 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:20 pm

nice :)

and hi again mate - happy xmas etc - and is good to see you over here :)

(I do have a fledgling plan ..... )