Whats the weather like in your area

[Samray]

I'll watch out for penguins migrating to somewhere colder, like here!

[HowardQ]

I'd never particularly thought of it that way Dave and you could have a point. If you are correct, TC's reply is comforting!

However, I still think that most people can't be bothered these days, I was brought up at a time when people all pulled together a lot more and things like this got done by the people on the street. Even the old ladies would come out with cups of tea, (even some with extras, if it got reallty cold) .
Everybody had a drink and a chat and it got gone.
There was a different attitude then, and I am not talking all that long ago, (before Andy comments about horse drawn snow ploughs before the war!).
It's a bit sad that all that has gone and people don't help each other to sort problems.
When I moved into my last house on a new estate on the outskirts of the mining "village" of Kiveton, we had probably the last winter anything like this in the 80s. There was really bad snow overnight and the estate was at least a foot deep in snow with much deeper drifts. I never actually knew many people as we had just moved in, but it turned out that most of the blokes on the estate were miners.
They certainly knew how to shovel, but even they were struggling.
Then one of them had this idea and he buggered off with a couple of mates for a while, seems they went off to see one of pit under managers and came back with a bulldozer, a digger, a dumper truck and a wagon from the pit yard. The last snow went in no time.
Never did know how they managed to work that one!
They weren't arrested for stealing the vehicles from the pit yard or for missuse of company property, the management just thought it was a great idea as all the blokes could get in to work OK for the next shift.
Can you imagine anything like this today?

How did we manage to F**k things up so well?

Then again, what are these things called coal mines and miners?

Come to think of it, I get funny looks when I get a shovell out to clear the snow, not sure most people where I live now have ever seen one.

[Aladinsaneuk]

i do notice you said shovel and not spade....

[fastasfcuk]

Then again, what are these things called coal mines and miners?

ii'm still hear.

[HowardQ]

Then again, what are these things called coal mines and miners?

ii'm still hear.

Yes there are still a lot of miners left in Kiveton as well although many never worked again after the local pits closed. (My comments were about outside people who no longer see them on the news and will have forgotten they existed).
As for the Kiveton pit itself, we were promised lots of regeneration money and were given millions by the EEC to regenerate the area years ago. Evidently the Government are still holding on to the EEC money for the time being! They've been holding it for 20 odd years now (probably in an Icelandic Bank). so can't see the "mining" villages ever seeing that ???
As for all the stuff that was promised including an extension of the Chesterfield Canal and a large marina and a new community swimming pool with lots of local people re-employed in the leisure industry, they pushed the spoil heaps around a bit, added a bit of grass seed and we now have two fishing ponds, that's it.
Still the old miners always liked fishing, so they have somewhere to pass the days.

[fastasfcuk]

yeh much the same here howard, promises and talk but no action.