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Samray · #16 Post by **Samray** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:14 pm

An awful lot of self righteous generalisations in this thread imho.

scorpio24v · #17 Post by **scorpio24v** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:43 pm

I prefer to call them personal observations, you can call em what you like

BikerGran · #18 Post by **BikerGran** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:54 pm

if you have 30 years and 250000 miles under the wheels then you must be doing something right that cant be attributed to luck.

That may very well be so, but there's bad luck as well as good, and I've known some very experienced and careful riders with many accident-free years on the road, who've been taken out by some entirely unprdictable action of another road user. Their experience has usuallu helped them to minimise the damage to themselves, but one of them isn't around to tell the tale.

HisNibbs · #19 Post by **HisNibbs** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:02 am

As I had several offs in my first six or seven years, my motorcyling history fits in generally with scorpio24v's two bags analogy.

I do agree that experience and skill increases your chance of anticipating and avoiding situations. However even if that increase pushes the odds out to a million to one there is going to be the one in a million who cops it, through no relative inability of their own. So maybe I'm splitting hairs with scorpio24v but I can't agree that luck has no place in this.

If what is meant is that we should not rely on or blame, luck for our actions in this arena then with that I agree totally.

Back to the initial theme...

Hopefully such an advert reminds people that any combination of hazards could be round the next bend or over the next crest. It does so in a way that implies risk and builds tension yet indicates that given proper consideration we can overcome, have fun and arrive safely. I think having this sort of discussion though painful for those with recent losses, might also help maintain awareness as we face such risks.

Any way on a more cheerful note, I was down the bike shop with a mate who hadn't been on a bike in 20 years. he was quite taken with the Ducati Street Fighter, so was I mind. Looks realy light and sexy with a claimed 150 BHP. Fortunately I think he was only dreaming.......

scorpio24v · #20 Post by **scorpio24v** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:24 am

HisNibbs wrote:As I had several offs in my first six or seven years, my motorcyling history fits in generally with scorpio24v's two bags analogy.

I do agree that experience and skill increases your chance of anticipating and avoiding situations. However even if that increase pushes the odds out to a million to one there is going to be the one in a million who cops it, through no relative inability of their own. So maybe I'm splitting hairs with scorpio24v but I can't agree that luck has no place in this.

If what is meant is that we should not rely on or blame, luck for our actions in this arena then with that I agree totally.

Back to the initial theme...

Hopefully such an advert reminds people that any combination of hazards could be round the next bend or over the next crest. It does so in a way that implies risk and builds tension yet indicates that given proper consideration we can overcome, have fun and arrive safely. I think having this sort of discussion though painful for those with recent losses, might also help maintain awareness as we face such risks.

Any way on a more cheerful note, I was down the bike shop with a mate who hadn't been on a bike in 20 years. he was quite taken with the Ducati Street Fighter, so was I mind. Looks realy light and sexy with a claimed 150 BHP. Fortunately I think he was only dreaming.......

Spot on, we seem to be in almost complete agreement, not surprising given we are both "survivours".
Get your mate to do some form of training either IAM or Rospa both very good in their different ways and well worth the money.

"Dont come a cropper, ride like a copper"