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graham0071 · #31 Post by **graham0071** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:24 pm

I just love these threads!!
The Problem!!
The Solution(s)!!!
And!!..The unexpected!!!!!...
I actually thought the problem was something else,but thought I would wait to suggest it!!..Obviously was wrong,

but....we all learn as we contribute and observe!! thanks!!!

Falcopops · #32 Post by **Falcopops** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:49 am

Just out of curiosity FM and I fully understand if your reluctant to go pulling chips again, but since there are two maps on the std chip and likely to be on the duff chip you have, would the engine run on the second map, by reconnecting the clipped wire?

Well done by the way, understandably happy bunny

HowardQ · #33 Post by **HowardQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:22 pm

Yeh, well done FM.
I was a bit like Graham, I could not imagine the map being lost.
Nice to see you got it sorted.
Also, like Dale, I wondered if you could have connected the wire and brought in another map.

Although I thought most of these non standard chips probably only had one map, regardless of whether the wire was chopped or not.

Tweaker · #34 Post by **Tweaker** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:49 pm

The Factory pro chip deffo has 2 - I've tried them both

falcomunky · #35 Post by **falcomunky** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:49 pm

TBH, the price I paid fer the old, (and the new), race chips makes me think that they are only supplied with one map. Never checked mind, but Im just happy that I got to the bottom of it before I had to resort to sending her to a shop!

What are peoples opinions on race chips? Whats the best and, perhaps more importantly, what lasts the longest!?

I have no idea what cans I have on mine, (they where on when I got the bike; ovals, very well made with welded seams underneath and a bolt together strap), so Im not too sure what chip would be the best match for em?
Suggestion/prices/sellers?

Syltiz · #36 Post by **Syltiz** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:38 pm

Post a piccy of your exhausts, maybe someone will recognise them. They could be for example Blue Flames with the badge removed in which case somebody will recognise them if they have the same cans

HowardQ · #37 Post by **HowardQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:03 pm

Not sure FM, I don't suppose there's that much difference between the different race cans, all of them are much less restrictive than the standard cans and cats. You could hear the gasses running around trying to find a way out of them.

Mine was similar to yours race cans (Beowulf in my case) and a K&N filter.
Cured the flatspot and pulled much better than standard from day one.
As long as you can live with the ear ache.

Bought a Rene +10 bhp chip from a member off the old site who had put his Falco back to standard to sell and was selling the bling stuff off on eBay.
Not got around to fitting it yet, until roads get a bit better, as want to give it a good blast before and after to see the difference in performance, either way.
Was a bit worried when somebody on here mentioned it would only really work with the Rene cans and induction kit.
My hope is it might make things a bit better, like the AF1 cheap Pete has fitted.
Let you know when I get round to fitting!

falcomunky · #38 Post by **falcomunky** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:08 pm

A couple o pics showing the cans...

And;

So, whatcha reckon?

Ive never seen zorsts that are put together so well. The strap is in two parts that bolt together underneath the cans, the outer-skin is perfectly welded underneath, (as opposed to my Micron on my zx6 which relied on the rivets to hold it in place), and the weld on the pipework is also spot on.
They are obviously a pretty decent make, better than my previous Scorpion/Micron/Carbon Can Co. zorsts that Ive had on other bikes in the past but Im buggered if I can identify em, (I think I put up a similar post on the old Prila site but to no avail).
Anyone?...

HowardQ · #39 Post by **HowardQ** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:21 pm

Sorry mate, I remember the last time you posted. I wasn't much help then either. Like last time, they do look like something I've seen before, but then again at my age that's my normal problem, always remember seeing something but not the bloody name !!!!!

fastasfcuk · #40 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:54 pm

they look like sigle port blue flames, not 100% though. are the baffles held in with circlips.

falcomunky · #41 Post by **falcomunky** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:03 pm

I asume you mean are they removable baffles? No they arent, (and judging by the sound, they aint road legal either

), however there is no 'Race Use'-type stamp, though neither is there any kind of BS stamp.

Aladinsaneuk · #42 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:07 am

pretty sure they are single port blue flames -

i suspect that you do not have any baffles in - and hence the noise :)

two baffles came with my blue flames - one fully baffled and one with extra holes in.... I tend to use those as they are more police friendly!

If it helps, and if I can be sure of getting them back, want me to post a set of baffles up with circlips to try?

falcomunky · #43 Post by **falcomunky** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:15 pm

Not so sure on that ALIUK;
My cans dont have that extra strap at either end that the rivets go through, (could have been removed I spose but cant think why), and your BFs dont look as though the hanger-strap bolts together at the bottom?

Also, the exit port on yours is sunk into the end cap, (as though its a top-hat shape thats welded on the inside?), whereas mine are externally welded, (the pics I posted are clickable, in case anyone didnt realise).
Think Im still in the dark about em...

Aladinsaneuk · #44 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:57 pm

i still reckon they are blue flames :)

Syltiz · #45 Post by **Syltiz** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:09 pm

I have single-port Blueflames, the carbon type. Also well seamed underneath and the general shape and length looks right. The difference is in the rivets. Mine has many more smaller rivets and I have a steel brace going around between rivets and carbon.

The differences might just be down to my carbon needing different riveting or mine are just older/newer that yours. On balance of probability? I would say they are Blueflames.