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#121 Post by D-Rider » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:46 pm

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Straight away, even before warmed up, you can tell that everything is a lot smoother. Gone is the hesitation when going from a closed throttle, low speed response is much better which is great when driving over wet manhole covers. Sounds minor, but I've always struggled with low-speed, small throttle openings being snatchy when you're negotiating tight corners, I usually slip the clutch but found that I could just crack the throttle and the bike was responding straight away, rather than pausing before kicking in.
Absolutely. All the extra "go" stuff is there, but for me too the low throttle opening controlability and predictability of the Gabro chip has transformed the Falco - especially on roads at this time of year.

The 4 things that have really made a significant difference are (in no particular order):
* Tyres that aren't MEZ3s (various Pirelli in my case)
* A shock that isn't a Sachs Blue spring (Ohlins in my case)
* Lightweight wheels (OZ are great, BST even better)
* A Gabro chip.

Sure I've plenty of other things that have improved it but those 4 have given the biggest improvements.
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#122 Post by Viking » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:19 am

Way back when...
flatlander wrote:DR is correct you need to set the trim pots to 12 o'clock as standard and then adjust to your liking there is a guide over on the other side but its simple .... must be I can do it :smt003
Put the Gabro chip back in last night and turned the two trim pots, as suggested.

Waahooo!! What a difference that made. Gone is the crackling and booming, gone is the fluffy feeling, gone is the strange throttle response (at low speed / small movements).

Compared to the SL chip, the Gabro chip is like being fired out of a cannon when you give the throttle a bit of a twist.
It's the V-twin thing. There's just something about it that inline-4s don't have at all, and V-4s don't have enough of.

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#123 Post by mrapriliafalco » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:00 am

Just rode my bike with the Forza chip, cannot believe the difference compared to standard.It fires up straight away without the feeling of needing to use the fast idle after 3rd attempt,when you stop at the 1st junction you dont think the bikes gonna cut out on you because so lumpy.
Then I opened her up on a fast A road and it was so smooth,not sure about that bit at the moment as enjoyed the lumpy nature when hacking it,sure it will be of a benefit once rode a couple of times
But my First Impression is very positive indeed

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#124 Post by flatlander » Sun May 03, 2015 9:29 am

Now having possession of both an evo chip and an SBK replica would anyone like an update :)
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#125 Post by D-Rider » Sun May 03, 2015 11:22 am

What's an SBK replica?
Never heard of that one before.
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#126 Post by flatlander » Sun May 03, 2015 12:54 pm

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#127 Post by D-Rider » Sun May 03, 2015 1:36 pm

Ah - a Gen1 Mille/Tuono chip specifically designed to work with a "SBK" Akrappyvitch exhaust.

Didn't realise you had one of those setups.

Thanks for the education BTW .... that googly thing looks quite useful :smt023
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#128 Post by blinkey501 » Sun May 03, 2015 2:53 pm

Seem as you are doing write up's I have a +10 chip you could try out?

Not too sure if it specifically for the mille?

Andy or pete might know.
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#129 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Sun May 03, 2015 6:57 pm

Small valve Mille/falco engine

Renegade chip - sings withe renegade air box :)


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#130 Post by flatlander » Sun May 03, 2015 11:15 pm

Got to be worth a go :) I thought the SBK whilst available for other setups was generally for the replica miles Edwards Haga ?
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#131 Post by D-Rider » Mon May 04, 2015 9:50 am

flatlander wrote:Got to be worth a go :) I thought the SBK whilst available for other setups was generally for the replica miles Edwards Haga ?
Someone on the forum told me about this "Google" thing - it's really good.

Try it for this SBK chip ... a bit of searching says its for those Akra SBK exhausts.

Are those the cans that come with the Edwards kit? sorry not time to use that googly thing at this moment
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#132 Post by flatlander » Mon May 04, 2015 1:13 pm

You probably should make time then you could learn how to use it better. There are several different versions of the SBK chip including the replica. The clue being in the name replica ... A quick google ... Ok I may have used Bing for that one ... You have heard of Bing ?
Anyway it suggested that replica meant not original a copy if you like and as such prone to approximation. So from that one might reasonably suppose that there are at least two versions both for searching and indeed of the chip in question. I doubt very much and I haven't searched for it but I do doubt very much that a highly specific chip used by a race team would be the same as one released to the general public

But as I say I have not searched for that though I am thinking of using Google to look for other search engines ;)
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#133 Post by D-Rider » Tue May 05, 2015 12:40 am

flatlander wrote:You probably should make time then you could learn how to use it better.
I'm sure you're right but as I was already late leaving to drive my elderly mum back to Reading, I failed to deliver the required commitment.
flatlander wrote: Ok I may have used Bing for that one ... You have heard of Bing ?
Didn't he do it his way?

.... must be time for me to Duck Duck Go .....

I'm guessing that the Akra SBK replica exhausts are modelled on the exhausts used by the bikes run in world superbike but even if the exhausts were essentially the same they would need a different chip as the SP engine was radically different to the road bikes so a chip would have been produced for the Akra SBK replica exhausts and been part of the kit.

I have established it is a different chip to the one in the Edwards kit.

If you've got a Mille with those exhausts on it, I guess it's probably the chip to have.
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#134 Post by flatlander » Tue May 05, 2015 6:05 am

Actually Bing is my brother I just asked him
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#135 Post by D-Rider » Tue May 05, 2015 9:11 am

I hear he's popular with all the old dears ... I believe they have given him the nickname "Bingo" and are always going to see him ...
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