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#61 Post by fatboy » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:10 pm

Viking, Im not complaining about the delivery aspect of the SL chip, Im describing it.
I think I may have just about mastered clutch control in about 33 years of riding, thankyou !
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#62 Post by flatlander » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:35 pm

What's a clutch ?!
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#63 Post by Twintin » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:13 pm

Viking PM Sent :smt003

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#64 Post by squadron Nero » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:34 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Lord help us.... You will be proposing we don't mod our falco's next!

Seriously, the standard chip is ok BUT - an after market chip can make a great bike better....

Perhaps worth while coming to a meet / gathering and try some of the other bikes with different chips?
Now now.

Unless mine has unknown to me been nodded with an upgrade chip and that's why I think it doesn't need modification. The falco's a good bike but it's not perfect and there's plenty of places for improvement. But if mine is on the standard chip I don't think that's one of them. Or at least there are better upgrades to consider first.

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#65 Post by flatlander » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:54 pm

I'm with Edmund Hilary you do it because its there

The currently fairly standard red one is fine but its getting chipped soon
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#66 Post by D-Rider » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:09 pm

It's so long since I rode a standard bike with standard airbox and standard exhaust plus standard chip that I honestly can't remember in detail how good it was .... though I do remember it was not perfect.

Start playing with some of those things and the fuelling (plus ignition map) certainly needs to move in harmony (just like with a carbed bike you would be making adjustments when you changed things that affect the breathing).

My priorities have always been focussed on improving the handling and rideability - suspension, wheels etc were attended to first ... but one of the most significant changes that improved the way that I could interact with the handling was the addition of the Gabro chip - far greater than I anticipated.
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#67 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:58 pm

hanna's oasis has a standard chip

last time i rode it, i was very aware of the poor pick up 3500 to 5000 revs


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#68 Post by Viking » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:37 am

fatboy wrote:Viking, Im not complaining about the delivery aspect of the SL chip, Im describing it.
I think I may have just about mastered clutch control in about 33 years of riding, thankyou !
I'm sorry - I was a bit narky when I replied before.

Aside from the home-built EFI beast, all my bikes prior to the Falco had carbs. So I don't really have that much to compare with. What may have felt "normal" to me at the time may have been "awful" to someone else.

I did see the big difference between the SL chip and Gabro's one.
It's the V-twin thing. There's just something about it that inline-4s don't have at all, and V-4s don't have enough of.

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#69 Post by Viking » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:39 am

Twintin wrote:Viking PM Sent :smt003
And replied to...
It's the V-twin thing. There's just something about it that inline-4s don't have at all, and V-4s don't have enough of.

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#70 Post by Twintin » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:50 am

Viking wrote:
Twintin wrote:Viking PM Sent :smt003
And replied to...
And replied to that. All done :smt003
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#71 Post by fatboy » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:42 pm

Hey Viking, lets have a beer ! :smt006
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#72 Post by Viking » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:48 pm

fatboy wrote:Hey Viking, lets have a beer ! :smt006
Sounds like a plan to me!! :smt003
It's the V-twin thing. There's just something about it that inline-4s don't have at all, and V-4s don't have enough of.

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#73 Post by Twintin » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:56 pm

Chip and board arrived safe and sound this morning. Fitted board to the Falco Fighter and its in and running fine now :smt003 will see what it's like in the morning on the way to work. Seems to be running a bit rich on initial impression as i can smell unburnt fuel? (maybe my imagination) Anyway will see what its like over the next few days and if it is running rich then maybe a Gabro chip is in order.

Big Thanks to Viking for coming up with the board
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#74 Post by Viking » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:36 am

Twintin wrote:Chip and board arrived safe and sound this morning.
Hurrah!! I was just wondering where it had got to.
Twintin wrote:Fitted board to the Falco Fighter and its in and running fine now :smt003 will see what it's like in the morning on the way to work. Seems to be running a bit rich on initial impression as i can smell unburnt fuel?
Excellent to hear. With the choke on, it is rather rich and has a bit of a lumpy idle. Once you get past about 4k RPM it all sorts itself out.

5k RPM is where the fun starts.
Twintin wrote:Big Thanks to Viking for coming up with the board
Your a Star :smt038 :smt038 :smt038
No worries at all! When I cleaned up my garage, I had no reason why the little voice in my head said "Keep it". I guess we know now! :smt003
It's the V-twin thing. There's just something about it that inline-4s don't have at all, and V-4s don't have enough of.

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#75 Post by Twintin » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:23 pm

well just to report, everythings hunky dorey :smt003 Pulls well, defo better between 3 & 5k on my commute so well pleased.
Cheers fellas for all the input and especially to viking. I've said it once but what a great forum this is :smt002

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