Calling Sebastian re Loobman.

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Fausto · #1 Post by **Fausto** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:52 pm

Hi Sebastian.

Nice looking bike you have there

Is that a Loobman setup? If so can you post pics of mounting. I have one to fit and can't decide on the best place. Was very happy with it on my Bandit - especially considering the price

Thanks.

sabestian · #2 Post by **sabestian** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:13 pm

Yes, that's Loobman. I just couldn't see the point in getting Scottoiler. It's hugely overpriced. Loobman is priced accordingly to what it is. I have no problem in squizing the bottle every morning (for like 50 quid). I just squize it and watch my wallet swell

Pictures: check the Riderside Falco gallery, last page.

I don't recommend my way of fitting (look-wise). I need to relocate the bottle to under the pillion seat.

Fausto · #3 Post by **Fausto** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:24 pm

Yes, I saw those pics which prompted my question. Was just wondering exactly where the bottle was mountede. Unclear in the pics.

However if you're not happy with that position then I'll look elsewhere. I don't recommend under the pillion or anywhere else not easy to access as it deters use. For instance I had it under the seat on the Bandit but when touring with luggage strapped on it was a chore to get to the bottle apart from at the beginning/end of the day and I tended to under oil and in the rain when you need more oil the last thing I wanted to do was stop and lift off luggage and seat!

I've got the back wheel out at the moment so will have a go at finding a good mounting. If it's any good I'll share it.

sabestian · #4 Post by **sabestian** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:33 pm

Perhaps at the back side of the passenger peg mount then? It is easy to route the tube from there - down.

Gio · #5 Post by **Gio** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:20 pm

How about alongside the rear shock?

sabestian · #6 Post by **sabestian** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:15 am

Gio wrote:How about alongside the rear shock?

Worth a try, shouldn't be too hard to get to.

Falco9 · #7 Post by **Falco9** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:11 pm

I have one (for sale unused!!) as it's a nightmare to fit to the Mille arm, I spoke to Loobman who to be fair tried to help me and admitted the Mille swinging arm was a bitch of a job to do, in the end I gave up

Just for info

F9

Fausto · #8 Post by **Fausto** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:48 pm

The thing with the Loobman is that you need to give the bottle a squeeze every now and then to send oil to the applicator thingie at the sprocket. This is best done at the start of a ride but on longer or wet rides it'll need doing more often so accessibility of the bottle is key.

I'll have a play over the w/e and post up any successful results.

sabestian · #9 Post by **sabestian** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:39 pm

I fitted the Loobman on the wheel-side of passenger left footpeg hanger. It works great. Better then expected TBH, because it's fully automatic now! The bottle being placed over the exhaust is being heated, air expands pushing oil out! I am a genius!

Of course most of the oil is being pushed out when I already parked...But shhhhh...

Aladinsaneuk · #10 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:20 pm

i just fitted a scottoiler - and rate it

was an easy job - once i found out exactly what falco/mille i had... the 98 carb set up is different - and the picture for the scottoiler website is wrong for the 2000 model

works fine, and is under the seat

Fausto · #11 Post by **Fausto** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:15 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:i just fitted a scottoiler - and rate it

was an easy job - once i found out exactly what falco/mille i had... the 98 carb set up is different - and the picture for the scottoiler website is wrong for the 2000 model

works fine, and is under the seat

Pete - you obviously get paid too much.

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:27 pm

Fausto wrote:
Aladinsaneuk wrote:i just fitted a scottoiler - and rate it

was an easy job - once i found out exactly what falco/mille i had... the 98 carb set up is different - and the picture for the scottoiler website is wrong for the 2000 model

works fine, and is under the seat
Pete - you obviously get paid too much.

Dunno what Pete gets paid but I've aso gone the Scottoiler route. Only part of mine is under the seat - the bit where the oil goes in - where it comes out is located on the swinger with the nibs on the sprocket - it seems to work better like that!

Now my decision was an economic one. I decided to fit one soon after getting the bike and I offset the cost of the scottoiler against the additional chains I may otherwise have to buy over the lifetime of the bike. When you also consider how much second hand Scottoilers go for on ebay, I could recover a large part of my outlay when I do get rid of the bike.
Put that alongside the convenience and it was a 'no-brainer'.

I've been very happy with it too.

Fausto · #13 Post by **Fausto** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:42 pm

I have no argument with the economics of the Scottoiler. If I rode my bike on a daily basis in all weathers etc then I would have one but the only time that happens is on hols/tours.

On those unfortunately infrequent occasions I went for the loobman as it's just as good for the chain and a fraction of the cost of a Scotty. I remove the oiler for most of the year anyway as it's just not necessary (for me).

Of course I spend far more time kneeling by my back wheel with an oil can than many I suspect

Gio · #14 Post by **Gio** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:10 pm

I'd always fit a scottoiler if it wasn't like my Falco. The one I fitted to my Blackbird after 4 years and 25k+ miles the chain and sprocket were nowhere near worn out. When I had my CB500 until I fitted a scottoiler a chain and sprockets were fecked after 5k.

Fausto · #15 Post by **Fausto** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:30 pm

Gio wrote:I'd always fit a scottoiler if it wasn't like my Falco.

Eh ?