Decent Battery

Message

Dalemac · #31 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:59 pm

bridged the starter solenoid, exactly the same as before. Took me a couple of goes, because the sparks always make me flinch. Natural reactions and all. I couldn't see any obvious fraying anywhere on the wiring loom around the headstock, but i will raise the tamk tomorrow and take a better look.

I gave the sidestand switch a good spray of gt85 and it turned over twice before the clocks reset. Can;t get it off though as I seem to have misplaced my 8mm socket. I'll try again in the morning. Hopefully its just full of crap ad needs a good clean.

D-Rider · #32 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:38 pm

Dalemac wrote:bridged the starter solenoid, exactly the same as before. .

Knackered battery

Dalemac wrote: I couldn't see any obvious fraying anywhere on the wiring loom around the headstock, but i will raise the tamk tomorrow and take a better look.

Complete red herring for the symptoms you described

Dalemac · #33 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:36 pm

Cheers Andy. I think I will run it down to Halfords (not literally, think my foot would fall off) and see if they will test it for me.

Amazon seller i bought it off doesn't seem to be responding. Joy.

Dale

HowardQ · #34 Post by **HowardQ** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:45 pm

DavShill wrote:My bike is 7 years old and is still on the oiginal battery. Lives in the garage and on the Optimate regularly but I think that is pretty good service ................. waits for battery to fail when tries to start her up this weekend !!!

It is incredible how good some original equipment is.
Mine lasted almost 8 years, can't remember what it was.

The model I am using now is a Dynavolt MG14-BS Gel Battery 13.5Ah.

blinkey501 · #35 Post by **blinkey501** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 am

My silver/ white bike is an 02 registration and the battery is origional. So yes i agree with you Howard

Dalemac · #36 Post by **Dalemac** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:44 am

HowardQ wrote:It is incredible how good some original equipment is.

I agree, the battery I pulled out of the Falco last year was the original - 10 years old.

If only they didn't make all the bolts and fixings out of cheese.

#37 Post by **mangocrazy** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:20 am

Dalemac wrote:If only they didn't make all the bolts and fixings out of cheese.

I don't honestly think that the fasteners are any worse or any better than on any other bike. What does happen over time is that the threads of fasteners corrode and much more force is needed to undo them. This leads to rounding off of bolt heads etc. The best thing you can invest in is a tube of Wurth CU 800 anti-seize compound and apply a little dab of it on every bolt (especially bodywork fasteners etc.) you undo. It makes life so much easier in the longer term.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WURTH-CU-800- ... 0685524792

Dalemac · #38 Post by **Dalemac** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Thanks for the idea Mangocrazy

I tried to jump start the bike from a mates car. It turned over, which is good, but still wouldn't start. Then there was a mechanical crunch noise. have I just killed the sprag clutch?

So the battery is obviously deaded.

If it did work out to be the sidestand switch, would it still a low the starter to spin, but not actually give any power to the coils?

How can I test to see if the sidestand switch is buggered?

I'm scared....

D-Rider · #39 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:46 pm

It is normal to be able to start the bike whatever the state of the sidestand switch. It only kills things when the bike is in gear.

Another red herring .......

Dalemac · #40 Post by **Dalemac** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:56 pm

OK, thanks Andy.

Looks like i'm going to have to check fuel and spark plugs. This isn't fun :(

Hope the clunk was nothing...

Dalemac · #41 Post by **Dalemac** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:49 am

Still no response from the amazon seller. He seems perfectly able to ship out items bu is completely ignoring my return request. I'm about done with amazon.

Dalemac · #42 Post by **Dalemac** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:14 am

Argh.

Still no start.

New spark plugs, one new spark plug cap, new motobatt battery.

It turns, but will not start. There is an odd pinging noise every turn. I initially thought it was the cam chain because it hasn't been used for a while, but now i'm not so sure. seems to be coming from the front of the engine.

I might need some help on this after all.

Any other ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Dale

EDIT

OK, it started :) It was the cam chain. Me and my paranoia.

Its running a bit rough though. Going to check the balance and idle speeds.

Boy am I releaved!

Dalemac · #43 Post by **Dalemac** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:23 pm

Well, this battery failed on me today. It was turning the bike over like normal, but wouldn't start. Manage to get the bike Home after being rescued by a neighbour and his battery pack...

Looks like I'm in the market for a new battery then! Perhaps I'll go yuasa this time...

Willopotomas · #44 Post by **Willopotomas** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:46 pm

Have just shoved one of these on the Futura.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YTZ14S-High-P ... 3f3e6b88c0

The sales patter is good.. Reviews from all manner of forums are good. For the price, thought I'd give it a go.

D-Rider · #45 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:52 pm

I've had a Yuasa YTZ14s on mine for a few years now (so same spec different manufacturer to Will's) - it's been very good.
Next time I'm going for a YTX14H-BS ... which has an even higher CCA rating.