Warning lights flash over tougher MoT

[Samray]

Included in the new check list are:

• Electronic stability controls and antilock brakes.

• Electronic parking brakes.

• Headlight main beam warning light.

• Electronic power steering warning light.

• Brake fluid level warning light.

• Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light.

• That the steering lock functions.

• Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.

• The tow bar's electrical socket. There will be a basic security/damage check of seven-pin sockets; 13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.

• Visible wiring that is insecure, or likely to cause a short circuit.

• A speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing, or cannot be illuminated.

• Testers will check that the driver's seat can be moved.

• A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside will fail.

• The removal of catalytic convertor that was fitted as original equipment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/ja ... -mot-rules

[MartDude]

Included in the new check list are:

• The removal of catalytic convertor that was fitted as original equipment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/ja ... -mot-rules

This would also apply to bikes?

[Aladinsaneuk]

not yet

on way soon though

[Samray]

... along with hassle with HIDs and allsorts.

[Aladinsaneuk]

the hid stuff will apply to cars only at this time... not bikes

[fatboy]

Not read a copy of MCN for a while, know those guys ( along with BMF and MAG ) are makin it obvious that EU TA legistlation is not needed or welcome in the UK. Sure this is something we need to keep an eye on

ps where the frig is my seat belt pre tensioner warning light on a falco/ armstrong mt 500/ xl 600 r ? ? ?

pps What does that mean for Daylight MOTs on classic trials, crossers ect?

[Kwackerz]

on the armstrong it's just behind the SA80 carrier..

[BikerGran]

Most of that is really only bringing the MOT up to date though, isn't it?

And from reading the "Stupid Comments" thread, it seems all these are needed cos many drivers would never think to check their brake fluid level unless told by a little red light - so it needs to work! And so on.

[Kwackerz]

And from reading the "Stupid Comments" thread, it seems all these are needed cos many drivers would never think to check their brake fluid level unless told by a little red light - so it needs to work! And so on.

And thats a problem? I dont check any of the cars normally, I have systems fitted negate the need, technological advances that have been in place since the day of Cortina Mk3 and the like.
If the light comes on on prestart up and doesnt go off on start up I have a problem.
If the light doesnt come on on prestart up, there's a problem. -Why get your hands dirty when you dont need to

Admittedly there are many who cant tell a shell bearing from a cotterpin, but there's many who can! Although I dont check my levels daily/weekly, I do know the normal usage and check them monthly as thats all I need to do.. although often as not I dont have to top up.
The Almera I scrapped the other week has never ever EVER needed topping up with coolant, oil or brakefluid or gearbox oil since it was new.
The Corsa needs about 200ml of oil every month, again no brakefluid and about 100ml of coolant per month. Gearbox hasnt been done yet.
The Transit gets checked weekly as we've not come to an arrangement yet.
The bikes always got checked every ride.

(fluids obviously changed on services)


Yes there's a need for these items to work.. and I agree its simply updating the MOT in many cases


At work we have the new MAN trucks. We had a crew's front inspection the other month and the OC came round checking levels and stuff on the vehicles. he got to the MAN and asked to see the dipstick for the oil.
'Aint one Sir' was the lad's reply.
Everything is done from the cockpit. turn the ignition on and it runs through prestart checks on everything and reports back on low levels and problems. Which is how it should be really nowadays!! So yes its good theyre checking everything (or at least more) on the new proposal and i think its about time. HOPEFULLY they will apply common sense at the same time as applying updated checks.

[BikerGran]

No it's not a problem for you because you do check manually every so often - many people never check ANYTHING unless a light comes on. There was a day at work when I told a colleague that one of her tyres was almost flat and she said that she's thought for a few days that the steering felt a bit odd. She hadn't thought to look at it herself, or pop into a garage and get it looked at, or even ask her husband! She just kept driving it.......

[D-Rider]

No it's not a problem for you because you do check manually every so often - many people never check ANYTHING unless a light comes on. There was a day at work when I told a colleague that one of her tyres was almost flat and she said that she's thought for a few days that the steering felt a bit odd. She hadn't thought to look at it herself, or pop into a garage and get it looked at, or even ask her husband! She just kept driving it.......

Hard to see how this will help though. If someone doesn't bother to check their wheels/tyres when the steering feels wrong, I can't see them bothering when there's a light on in the cluster that they probably also didn't notice - or if they did, realise it shouldn't be on.
If these being operational at each MOT is the requirement, then the MOT could equally check that tyres are pumped up and fluids topped up etc. Either way, it only gets done once per year.
No substitute for doing proper regular checks yourself.

The one I really don't understand as being introduced a "safety measure" is the steering lock being operational. (A security measure, maybe)

[Kwackerz]

Probably insurance company driven..

[Samray]

I dunno ... can't imagine any thing much more dangerous than a steering lock with a mind of it's own.

[D-Rider]

I dunno ... can't imagine any thing much more dangerous than a steering lock with a mind of it's own.

That would just be one very unusual failure mode and probably untestable in an MOT.