A bit of fettling and servicing

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D-Rider · #1 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:47 pm

I'm slowly working through the 19,000 mile service items while I've a few days off work over Christmas and new year. However, before doing the oil change I shifted the Falco/Mille-R balance of my bike back towards the Falco.
Gone are the Mille-R stainless oil tank, oil cooler and front exhaust header and back to the bike are the Falco oil tank, cooler. and front header.

I am glad to report that this has been achieved without losing the 2-into-1 Mille exhaust

HowardQ · #2 Post by **HowardQ** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:10 pm

Didn't that make all the changes a little pointless?

Please elaborate for us Andy?
You just need to put the pipe back on the nearside now and the transformation will be complete, it will look like a twin again!

D-Rider · #3 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:21 pm

HowardQ wrote:Didn't that make all the changes a little pointless?
Please elaborate for us Andy?
You just need to put the pipe back on the nearside now and the transformation will be complete, it will look like a twin again!

Not at all.
Until recently there was no relatively easy solution when fitting a 2-into-1 exhaust but to swap the oil tanks over as well in order to avoid the oil tank and exhaust fighting for the same piece of space. The oil cooler is best swapped too due to hose routing issues.
However if you do a bit of searching from a few months ago, you will find that Greg-D pioneered a solution that lets you retain the Falco oil circuit components through a bit of an exhaust mod. He was kind enough to sort me out with the necessary modification and I've been waiting a few months to fit it. It's now in place.

HowardQ wrote: You just need to put the pipe back on the nearside now and the transformation will be complete, it will look like a twin again!

No thanks - that would have been a bit pointless .... and I don't want to make the bike ugly .... and it does look like a twin

HowardQ · #4 Post by **HowardQ** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:47 pm

Wasn't really being funny, just interested, as it seemed a lot of work to do, to take off again!
I missed the post from Greg, as a single sided swap is just not my taste, but we are all different, so do our own things to our Falcos, and your bike (as I have often mentioned before) looks superb!

D-Rider · #5 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:13 am

HowardQ wrote:Wasn't really being funny, just interested, as it seemed a lot of work to do, to take off again!

Don't fret Howard - I can spot banter and general ribbing without difficulty

I prefer the Falco oil tank TBH so was keen to change back .... there's a few less things on the list of mods come insurance time too.
The fact that it is a bit of an effort (though not that bad) is why I've waited until I was doing a service. Of course the re-routed pipework will work with either oil tank but I've waited to do it all together.

HowardQ wrote: I missed the post from Greg, as a single sided swap

Here it is:https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

HowardQ wrote:.............. but we are all different, so do our own things to our Falcos, and your bike (as I have often mentioned before) looks superb!

Nooj · #6 Post by **Nooj** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:52 am

Got any plans for the Mille oil cooler?

D-Rider · #7 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:01 am

Nooj wrote:Got any plans for the Mille oil cooler?

Once I've got it all cleaned up I might sell the pipework, oil tank and cooler as a 2-into-1 conversion kit. I'm not keen to split it yet awhile as with bits of the "kit" missing, it becomes less interesting to someone who wants to do the conversion. Of course if in due course there are several people wanting the different bits I might be tempted.

I've a couple of spare Falco oil tanks too ... they can go individually.

blinkey501 · #8 Post by **blinkey501** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:47 am

I would like the conversion from Greg D, I have the oil tank and correct collecter for the 2 into 1 conversion that can have the link pipes welded into place.
I really don't know what to do has i don't have the mille cooler.
But i was told that the pipework can be extended to accomadate the origional cooler

D-Rider · #9 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:32 am

blinkey501 wrote:I would like the conversion from Greg D, I have the oil tank and correct collecter for the 2 into 1 conversion that can have the link pipes welded into place.
I really don't know what to do has i don't have the mille cooler.
But i was told that the pipework can be extended to accomadate the origional cooler

1) If you do Greg's conversion, you don't need the Mille oil tank and cooler ... but .... we've not seen Greg on here for some time so I'm not sure how likely it is to be able to get the modified mid-section to do that. I will contact him today to see if I can find out how he is and let him know I've fitted my pipe.

2) If you are doing the "usual" conversion that uses the complete Mille exhaust, you do need a Mille oil tank but the cooler is optional. When I had this setup, before I obtained a Mille oil cooler I used the Falco one. There is one oil line that requires re-routing. It's not that difficult - just a bit untidy compared to using the Mille cooler.
The other thing is that the top mounting of the Mille oil tank is in a slightly different position and you need to make a simple bracket for it.

blinkey501 · #10 Post by **blinkey501** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:24 am

Thanks andy, i do have the mille oil tank.
I bought everything has a job lot from madhatter when he had is crash.
But i still think Gregs mid-section is the business, so yes please if you don't mind ringing him

Nooj · #11 Post by **Nooj** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:04 pm

Cooler and pipework are of interest. My Blue Peter plumbing does the job, but does dribble oil a bit (was only meant to be a temp fix until a Mille/Tuono oil cooler turned up).

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:26 pm

The servicing continues.

Today I got round to doing the valve check .... TBH a little colder than ideal - Aprilia say that it should be done at room temperature ..... outside at the beginning of January is probably a little cooler than the room they had in mind.

Anyway, I'm glad to report that all valve clearances are in spec (even allowing for the slightly cooler temperatures)
As anticipated it was a bit of a PITA - but not too difficult. The worst bit was that the allen socket in one of the cam cover bolts was worn and I couldn't get any of my allen keys to fit. I had to resort to the trick of hammering in an old torx bit - which did the trick.

I've now got a replacement cam cover bolt on order from InMoto .... and in so doing have discovered that InMoto no longer offer Club Aprilia discount

D-Rider · #13 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:51 pm

.... and today I replaced the hoses that connect the reservoirs to the master cylinders. When I switched to the radial master cylinders I found that the hoses weren't long enough and had to use some random hose I had hanging around. Unfortunately the brake fluid sweated through it a bit. I've obtained some proper Brembo hose which I fitted today - so I guess that should do the trick.

.... and I've also stripped the rear suspension linkages, cleaned out the bearings, re-packed them and put them all back together.

Nearly at the end of the service now.

D-Rider · #14 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:10 pm

Finished it yesterday

18,750 mile service (including valve clearance check)
Removal of Mille-R Oil Tank, Oil Cooler and Tuono Coolant reservoir and replaced with Falco items.
Removal of Mille front exhaust header - replaced with Falco front header.
Removal of Mille exhaust mid section with Mille exhaust mid section modified to mate with Falco headers and clear Falco oil tank.
Replace hoses between brake and clutch master cylinders and reservoirs.
Strip and re-pack suspension linkage bearings.
Re-grease sidestand pivot.
Replace speed sensor (for 2nd time)
Balance TBs (they hardly needed tweaking TBH)

Guess I need to go for a ride when I can find a moment.

Nooj · #15 Post by **Nooj** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:14 pm

Probably needs a clean after all that