Bonhams Auction, Stafford 24/04/2011

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#1 Post by **Kwackerz** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:56 am

http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19163/

I know these happen all the time, but if you scroll through you'll find two rather special bikes:

First is a NEW and UNUSED Triumph T160 Trident in maroon and white and second is the very last ever to be built, silver coloured, Norton Commando MkIII Interstate

Sales estimate for each is £12-16k

Both come from Carl Rosner (The Triumph dealer) and are selling ready for his retirement

Thought i would mention it in case anyone is interested

#2 Post by **Kwackerz** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:14 am

Couple of decent racers from him too

HowardQ · #3 Post by **HowardQ** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:43 am

Oh go on then, I'll bid for the lot.
They all look nice and I can't make my mind up.

My top limit might just need to be a bit below their estimates I'm afraid.

Samray · #4 Post by **Samray** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:08 pm

Nice pension fund.

Like the Commando.

D-Rider · #5 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:11 pm

Well, they look very expensive until you look at the list price of current litre bikes .... then just a bit expensive.

No - I won't be bidding or buying a new litre class bike.

Trident · #6 Post by **Trident** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:38 pm

Bought both the T160 and Norton, now broke.

D-Rider · #7 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:46 pm

Trident wrote:Bought both the T160 and Norton, now broke.

Hi and welcome ..... and congratulations.

Are these to ride, to appreciate in value, or a bit of both?

Nice whichever

#8 Post by **Kwackerz** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:46 pm

Happily broke though!?

Hi Trident, welcome to RiderSite! Nice bit of history you've snaffled there! Congrats!

Trident · #9 Post by **Trident** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:12 am

I think I paid too much for the Norton, but I thought the T160 was underpriced.
My brother is having the Norton.

Trident · #10 Post by **Trident** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:16 am

We will not ride them just as an investment and part of our collection of T120,140,150,160.
They have never been started since leaving factory.

#11 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:32 am

Thats why im not tempted by proper decent pristine classics.. Id trash all that pristine history by playing with the kickstart... Id have to have a little ride... Thats why I leave the serious collecting to people who can be trusted.. Id not be able to help myself!

Hope they bring you good fortune and happiness! Just dont ask me to bikesit when you go on holiday!

BikerGran · #12 Post by **BikerGran** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:56 am

Bikes were made to be ridden - that's why I like the Haynes Museum, you see beautiful old bikes there with MUD on them!

Dalemac · #13 Post by **Dalemac** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:01 am

Trident wrote:They have never been started since leaving factory.

Can you explain this to me, because i have to say, i dont get it.

In my opinion, you can never truely appreciate a vehicle until it you have used it for its original purpose. I can admire plenty of objects that i will never ride/drive for their looks, but the passion and soul comes from riding/driving them. Its almost as if owning but not riding such a rare and iconic vehicle shoule be a crime? I mean to not even hear it ticking over?

It would be like buying a brand new R7 and never racing it because there wont be many left in 50 years time.

On the other hand, some people pay much more for "ornaments".

I'm not sure where im going with this, i just guess i would rather own something which i can actively ride and use. The bike i would most like to own is the ducati 999( i know, but it looks so good!) , but if i ever did find myself buying one, it would be to ride, not hide under a dust cover for the rest of my life.

Just my thoughts, hope i didnt cause offense!

Dale

back_marker · #14 Post by **back_marker** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:17 am

Dalemac wrote: ...the ducati 999( i know, but it looks so good!)

Should've gone to Specsavers...

D-Rider · #15 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:23 am

Agreed in general Dale ..... however if you have money to put away for a rainy day/retirement/whatever, then why not put it into something you like - such as a bike (or bikes)
These historic ones will not retain their value (or hopefully appreciate) if used .... let alone pick up the usual day-to-day marks of use.
In some ways it's good to preserve them .... and a far nicer way to invest your money than in stocks and shares .....
You can always buy another similar used model to ride on the road if that's what you want to do - this doesn't have to be an either/or (funds permitting).

Enjoy them Trident