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Aladinsaneuk · #1 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:10 pm

after griff set the oasis green's suspension, some one can no longer totally flat foot the falco

I have been looking at http://www.soupysperformance.com/homepage.html

anyone ever used one of these?

thoughts and opinions generally?

and yes, I suspect they do do a version for scooters tim.....

D-Rider · #2 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:14 pm

Firstly, is it really necessary to get both feet flat on the ground? Lowering it will compromise the setup that Griff achieved.

Secondly, a set of these may be preferable

dyzio · #3 Post by **dyzio** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:58 pm

+1 to D-Rider.

That's for your missus isn't it? Have you looked at raised boots, like the Daytona Laydystar? Expensive, but apparently worth it.

Aladinsaneuk · #4 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:04 pm

she has the boots

both lady star and the ones that andy showed the picture of

(those are her legs, pre cellulite)

Jadaris · #5 Post by **Jadaris** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:14 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:she has the boots

both lady star and the ones that andy showed the picture of

(those are her legs, pre cellulite)

Whats celulite babe?????? And prepare to be walked over in those stilettos............

Do you require the kleenex?

paddyz1 · #6 Post by **paddyz1** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:15 pm

D-Rider wrote:Lowering it will compromise the setup that Griff achieved.

No it won't. The compression, rebound and preload will be exactly the same, only the ride height will change. If you lower the front equally the only change then will be the wheelbase by a few mm.

Main things to look out for are the sidestand will need altering and you will have to watch for clearance issues with the front mudguard and the lower yokes(keeping it English).

Ask me how i know.....and i will tell you Triumph 675 and Davina don't mix out of the box

paddyz1 · #7 Post by **paddyz1** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:18 pm

Jadaris wrote: And prepare to be walked over in those stilettos...........

You can practise on me first if you like

Aladinsaneuk · #8 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:18 pm

well

you know you used that fake tan, and you ended up with that faint orange glow a la dale winton?

those flabbly bits on your hips and thighs that now really look like a jaffa orange???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208h7VSfuxQ seems appropriate

D-Rider · #9 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:34 pm

paddyz1 wrote:
D-Rider wrote:Lowering it will compromise the setup that Griff achieved.

No it won't. The compression, rebound and preload will be exactly the same, only the ride height will change. If you lower the front equally the only change then will be the wheelbase by a few mm.

Hmmm ..... I think it will as it will alter the front/back balance and lowering the back end will slow down the turn-in.
It may be possible to offset it by dropping the yokes down the forks but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't much scope left there.

Obviously the effect on the preload and damping will be fairly inconsequential.

Aladinsaneuk · #10 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:18 pm

i set the front to three rings showing so i reckon i have two rings to play with

(Very frankie howerd moment....)

she has gone ahead and ordered one - we see

paddyz1 · #11 Post by **paddyz1** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:51 pm

D-Rider wrote:
paddyz1 wrote:
D-Rider wrote:Lowering it will compromise the setup that Griff achieved.

No it won't. The compression, rebound and preload will be exactly the same, only the ride height will change. If you lower the front equally the only change then will be the wheelbase by a few mm.
Hmmm ..... I think it will as it will alter the front/back balance and lowering the back end will slow down the turn-in.
It may be possible to offset it by dropping the yokes down the forks but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't much scope left there.

Obviously the effect on the preload and damping will be fairly inconsequential.

I got the 675 2 inches lower at the back and 1 inch lower at the front and it still handled great. That was with a similar adjuster as Pete is suggesting.

There are two things that change when you alter the rear height and that is rake and trail. The rake is the angle of the forks and the trail is the distance from the tyre contact patch and the wheel spindle if you take the measurement from the floor.
If you lower the rear you increase the rake which also increases the trail and thus slowing the steering. Same as raising the yokes (or pushing the forks through the yokes).

The effects of lowering the rear by 1 inch can be compensated by lowering the front by 15mm (on a 675)

anzacinexile · #12 Post by **anzacinexile** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:08 pm

....or do what wifey did with her SV1000

Got herself a pair of Daytona boots with a 1.5" internal step. 'Kin expensive but beautifully made, looks normal from the outside and enables her to be flat footed on her bike

Aladinsaneuk · #13 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:19 pm

She already has the daytonas

Is about 1 to 2 inches off flat footing

anzacinexile · #14 Post by **anzacinexile** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:03 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:She already has the daytonas

Is about 1 to 2 inches off flat footing

Oh yeah ..........

NOTE TO SELF - must read all posts in a thread

D-Rider · #15 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:51 am

anzacinexile wrote:....or do what wifey did with her SV1000

Got herself a pair of Daytona boots with a 1.5" internal step. 'Kin expensive but beautifully made, looks normal from the outside and enables her to be flat footed on her bike

Yeah - wives are usually expensive but you are fortunate to have one that is beautifully made. I think most of them look fairly normal from the outside.

You're a good chap to buy her those boots too - I'm sure she deserved them.