Is it worth changing your own tyres??

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Is it worth changing your own tyres??

#1 Post by old git » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:05 am

Have a new shock to put on the back (eventually :smt006 :smt003 ) and while i am in there, will need some new plimsoles to go play on.
So, have googled & seen threads about changing your own, looks OK :smt017 , but is it worth forking around and also I will then need to get them balanced which is another thing entyrely (!)
OK I am gona save what maybe £20 but then if I take it to get it balanced thats -£££
So votes please should I bother or just take it to the shop & let them do it?
Thinking of keeping the same Avon Storms, any objections althoough some guys on the SV forum have also rated the Maxxis as well, anyone on here run either??
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#2 Post by anzacinexile » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:45 am

My local shop charges £5 fitting on a loose wheel. IMHO it aint worth faffing around with especially considering your going to have to get them balanced.

Yeah, I know you can balance them yourself but I just dont trust static balancing - seen to many perfectly static balanced assemblies to only be a mile off when they start moving

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#3 Post by paddyz1 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:52 am

I change my own tyres. If the dot is on the tyre and you put it above the valve then you can get a fairly good balance but not exact. The main problem you have is getting rid of the old tyres as no one wants to take them off your hands.

I got rid of a stock of 10 used tyres just recently because i was scrapping a transit and thought 'fuck it', the scrappy are going to rip me off....they can have a few presents in the back of the van.

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#4 Post by mangocrazy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:17 am

I think it's a question of whether you're making a long-term commitment to changing tyres or whether you're viewing it as a one-off. I decided last year that from then on I was going to change my own tyres, partly because it means over time I can save money, partly because if my rims get chipped I can only blame myself and partly because I wanted to try out 'Easy Balance' compound and you need to add the compound as you're fitting the tyres. (I didn't have the bottle to ask a tyre fitter to do it)...

So I bought myself an Abba bead-breaker, some rim protectors and a set of Buzetti tyre levers and got stuck in. I remember changing my own tyres years ago (back in my 350LC days) and thought that if I could do it then, I can do it now. The one thing you do need is a method of clamping the wheel in place without damaging the rims. There's nothing more frustrating than chasing a wheel round a garage floor while waving tyre levers about...

I opted to use my old Black and Decker Workmate. This came with a set of (orange) pegs which fit into the top surface and are designed to clamp irregular shape objects. Like motorcycle wheels... I wrapped some gaffa tape around the clamping surfaces to protect my rims and gradually wound the two sides together until they securely clamped the wheel rims at four equally-spaced points. I was then able to use 'reasonable force' to get the tyres off and back on the rims, using my fancy levers (they really are very good) and the rim protectors. Oh yes, and plenty of lube (Abba also supply a pot of this and a brush).

I was initially skeptical about Easy Balance tyre balancing beads, but decided to give it a go. The benefit, as far as I was concerned was that I wouldn't have any more ugly, messy balance weights to contend with. Removal of these things almost always leaves marks on the rim and, as others have said, static balancing is an imperfect art. To be honest, whether this stuff worked or not would probably determine whether I continued to fit my own tyres. This is where I get it from: http://www.tyre-equipment.co.uk/acatalo ... pound.html

I'm glad to say it does, at least in my experience. I've now fitted it to four wheels (Front and Rear on the Falco's Roadsmarts and F/R on my VFR 750's Continentals), and the wheels on both bikes feel beautifully balanced, so much so that I've never even given it a second thought. Don't ask me how it works; it just does in my experience. The only caveat is that it's completely incompatible with Nooj's tyre gloop, which may be a downside for some.

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#5 Post by Kwackerz » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:02 pm

One of the downsides to changing your own tyres is sourcing them from reliable yet cheap places.

Although I would hope many companies are current, buying tyres from say at the BMF and the like when there's a sale on can result in you getting old stock, whereas booking it in for tyres at a garage will oft as not ensure you get a fresh set of hoops as the company will only order in what they know they can sell, or order in on next day delivery from the supplier, which will hold new stock as they have decent turnover.

If you see what I mean..!

A mate ordered tyres as they were on a special on the tinterweb and when he got them found they were 2+ years old. Maybe not a problem however depends on how theyve been stored.

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#6 Post by HisNibbs » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:05 pm

I do most things myself and have changed numerouse tyres manualy however these days I use the tyre supplier. He does a better job than I could very quickly and without marking the rims. He does it for not much if anything, over the margin on the tyres and includes balance and new valves.

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#7 Post by Paulh » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:23 pm

I need to change tyres regularly on my race bike, so have looked into it as a way of saving money.

Basically I came to the conclusion that buying bead breakers, levers, balancing equipment etc just wasn't worth it when I can pay someone £5 - £7.50 to do it (and I get through loads more tyres a year than I ever did on the road).

Quite a few tyre places will fit "free" anyway if you buy the tyre from them - usually works out cheaper than buying on the internet then paying postage plus fitting IMO.

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#8 Post by ReggieGasket » Sat May 01, 2010 12:43 pm

I often buy second hand tyres and get them fitted, but my local shops charge £15 to a loose wheel. Used to be £10. Would rather buy new, but the prices are high locally for the good types of tyre. Still, thinking about it, the last new tyre (front BT45) I bought for my CB500 lasted so long I got pissed off with it. I even took it on 2 track days to kill it. It's done about 10,000 miles and still has 3mm of tread. In the end I took it off and will sell it on ebay! Not for the money really, just because I have a sort of strange respect for it now and want to see it continue. So, that was good value for money, even though at the time I thought £92 was a rip off. Just off to list the tyre then...

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#9 Post by MartDude » Sat May 01, 2010 5:44 pm

Old Git - get a price from WAS in Worcester :
http://www.wasautocentre.co.uk/

Last time I used them (about 3 years ago - for the R100 RS) I found them only a little more than buying off the internet & paying for fitting. They're very accommodating, helpful and friendly; run by bikers.

Sadly, one of the proprietors was killed on the IOM last year - sidecar racer; but they appear to be carrying on
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#10 Post by Pierre » Sat May 01, 2010 6:04 pm

I started changing my own tyres mainly for convienence, cos i'm so disorganised I'd want tyres on when everywheres shut.

Made a bead breaker, bought some levers off ebay, some rim protectors and the most important bit - tyre soap. Total of £25ish

Besides, I pay £50 for ex-race tyres and I'll be f****d if I'm paying £30 at a track to put them on :smt002

I'm now thinking about this, cos I always wanted a hydrolic one but resigned to the fact its never gonna happen


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Only £185, thats only 12 trackday changes :smt003


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#11 Post by old git » Mon May 03, 2010 10:02 am

MartDude wrote:Old Git - get a price from WAS in Worcester :
http://www.wasautocentre.co.uk/

Last time I used them (about 3 years ago - for the R100 RS) I found them only a little more than buying off the internet & paying for fitting. They're very accommodating, helpful and friendly; run by bikers.

Sadly, one of the proprietors was killed on the IOM last year - sidecar racer; but they appear to be carrying on
Yea, looked at them, are only 400 yds from my house, will give them a call to see what the prices are like.
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#12 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon May 03, 2010 10:12 am

for the average road user, ie not going through tyres on track days etc, i would pay the shop to do it

I have a choice of local companies that offer a ride in service for new tyres and their prices including fitting are very comparable to the internet


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