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Our world balances on a sea of debt

#1 Post by mangocrazy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:55 pm

Stumbled across this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/feature ... -debt.html

It's not exactly a barrel of laughs, but it's probably the clearest exposition I've yet read of how we are all entangled in a global conspiracy called money.

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#2 Post by BikerGran » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:29 pm

I really don't want to know!
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#3 Post by Samray » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:23 pm

I never did understand why pyramid schemes were illegal except when operated by governments and bwankers.

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#4 Post by mangocrazy » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:07 pm

Samray wrote:I never did understand why pyramid schemes were illegal except when operated by governments and bwankers.
Quite; people might start to see the similarity and question the whole concept. And that would never do, would it?

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#5 Post by MartDude » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:21 pm

mangocrazy wrote:
Samray wrote:I never did understand why pyramid schemes were illegal except when operated by governments and bwankers.
Quite; people might start to see the similarity and question the whole concept. And that would never do, would it?
Very good - emperor's new clothes scenario

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#6 Post by D-Rider » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:27 pm

The basis under all of this goes back to the very roots of banking - the creation of credit has underpinned it all for centuries. Banking wouldn't exist without it.
The dangers come when banks lend riskily - ie when the deposits become too small a proportion of lending and too many people want to withdraw their deposits at once .... the situation becoming critical when loss of confidence in a bank leads to a stampede for deposits to be withdrawn.

The impact of it is well captured by James Stewart in "It's A Wonderful Life"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Er69b4H ... re=related

The problem is that it has been extended into more risky ventures and what they laughingly call "products" (I SO object to the use of the word "product" for non tangible finance schemes etc ... a product is something physical that people have fashioned).

As it always has, it falls down due to one thing ..... Greed.
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#7 Post by Falken » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:30 pm

:smt001
I'm not greedy. Just give me £1 more than the wife can spend.
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#8 Post by snapdragon » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:56 pm

if it's on a sea, it's afloat - and surely afloat is good ? :smt001
BikerGran wrote:I really don't want to know!
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Falken wrote:I'm not greedy. Just give me £1 more than the wife can spend.

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#9 Post by hobbit » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:29 pm

snapdragon wrote:if it's on a sea, it's afloat - and surely afloat is good ?

:smt005
Not if you're floating up the creek without a paddle . . . :smt005
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#10 Post by BikerGran » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Wanna share my new avatar Snap?

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#11 Post by Kwackerz » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:28 pm

found it a good read. nothing new, just presented in a much better way than ''if everyone with notes (promise to pay the bearer on demand~~) tipped up at the bank of england and asked for their i.o.u's paid in gold the whole of UK would be fekked.''
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