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tommy
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by tommy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:42 pm
Got a Renegade "Plus 02" chip for a Falco if anyone wants it
I've managed to bag myself a Power Commander so I no longer need it
For open air box and pipes
Activates trim pots.
£30 delivered
PM me
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by D-Rider » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:59 pm
PM sent
.... but ....
1) Trim pots are enabled anyway (though think they are not for USA bikes)
2) I think the Renegade also alters the ignition map ... which is why I'm interested in it to use alongside my PCIII
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by tommy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:02 pm
PM replied
Didn't know about the trim pots. I didnt need to touch them so i left them where they were, lol
You have first dibs on it
Tom

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by D-Rider » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:29 pm
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
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by hornetrider » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:54 pm
Bah. D-Rider gets all the bargins

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by D-Rider » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:28 pm
.... and now it's in my grubby little hands ....
we'll, no it isn't actually - I've just put it down to type this - but you know what I mean ....
Many thanks

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by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:18 pm
is why i went for the af1 chip - for the ignition side of things
(Or else i would have gone for this as well - rest of the renegade stuff is fitted so.....)
Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...
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by snapdragon » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:41 pm
Renegade chip for sale
does that come with cod or hake?
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HowardQ
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by HowardQ » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:22 pm
That reminds me I bought a Renegade "plus 10" (I think), chip about a year ago and never got round to fitting it. Let us know how you go on Andy, and I'll have a go at fitting mine, think I paid £40 for it.
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by D-Rider » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:43 pm
HowardQ wrote:That reminds me I bought a Renegade "plus 10" (I think), chip about a year ago and never got round to fitting it. Let us know how you go on Andy, and I'll have a go at fitting mine, think I paid £40 for it.
I doubt I will fit it 'till I'm ready to get the PCIII mapped .... that will be after I've modified my airbox .... so it won't be for a few months.
I will let you know though Howard.
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by D-Rider » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:27 pm
Chip now sitting in my spare ECU - waiting for me to sort out my airbox and a PCIII dyno session.
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by HowardQ » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:52 pm
Is there any difference with the Renegade chips.
My chip is labelled -
RENEGADE
Aprilia+ 10
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by D-Rider » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:36 pm
Yes .... but details are hard to find ....
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by fastasfcuk » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:00 pm
does'nt the pc111 overide the ecu's chip.

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by D-Rider » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:15 pm
fastasfcuk wrote:does'nt the pc111 overide the ecu's chip.

Yes - it adds or subtracts fuel.
If you have a PCIII (and get its map set up for your bike) it is normally pointless fitting a different chip - it will give you nothing.
However, there are a few chips that alter the ignition timing as well as fuelling - generally giving more advance where this is beneficial (for noise and emissions reasons, both fuelling and ignition timing maps are compromised from a performance and economy perspective).
As the PCIII only affects fuelling, there can be benefits in also fitting a chip that improves the ignition map.
The chips we know to affect ignition timing are:
- * Gabro's chips
* The FP 1314 chip
* The Renegade chips
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
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