Running in. Factory spec or thrash it?

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#1 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:20 pm

Been a while since this was posted (and it has been updated)

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Yay or Nay? I agree with the breaking in at full chat..

but with a racecan fitted..

Fausto · #2 Post by **Fausto** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:34 pm

I just wish I could afford to have this problem

Falco9 · #3 Post by **Falco9** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:47 pm

Every Aprilia engine is run up to full chat on the factory assembly line anyway. But I do agree that the motor should be run in hard.

Having said that I was very easy with the Tuono (1st new bike in 20yrs after all) and although the engine is superb it does use more oil than the Falco ever did. I'm convinced it's because I followed the running in procedure, so next time (if there ever is a "next" time) I will be harder on the motor, not silly but I'll use more revs without loading the engine too much

F9

#4 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:58 pm

Fausto wrote:I just wish I could afford to have this problem

Buy a two stroke, you get to run it in every 1000 miles or so..

Gio · #5 Post by **Gio** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:24 pm

Well on the 2 bikes I've had new I ran it a bit harder tha the manufacturer said with no ill effects.

#6 Post by **mangocrazy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:49 pm

I read that article with interest, as my Falco is only 200 miles old. On the runs I did I let it rev freely, but now wished I'd revved it harder. I'm not sure what oil is in the bike from the factory, but I'm seriously thinking of dropping the oil out and replacing it with mineral based oil to assist the running-in process.

Anyone know what oil comes in a Falco from the factory? And are there any of the old-style filters still in circulation (no pun intended)...?

#7 Post by **Kwackerz** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:59 pm

This makes for interesting reading too

http://mototuneusa.com/thanx.htm

(if you cant see it, sign up for the email, but you should be able to...

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Especially the one about direction of the exhaust!

D-Rider · #8 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:55 pm

Kwackerz wrote: Especially the one about direction of the exhaust!

Which section is that in ?

#9 Post by **Kwackerz** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:57 pm

14. Dynamic Horsepower

I dont know if we should let the likes of Alad see this one.

http://mototuneusa.com/homework.htm

Isnt his Stealth Falco currently laid up?

Gio · #10 Post by **Gio** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm

mangocrazy wrote:I read that article with interest, as my Falco is only 200 miles old. On the runs I did I let it rev freely, but now wished I'd revved it harder. I'm not sure what oil is in the bike from the factory, but I'm seriously thinking of dropping the oil out and replacing it with mineral based oil to assist the running-in process.

Anyone know what oil comes in a Falco from the factory? And are there any of the old-style filters still in circulation (no pun intended)...?

Do you want to use mineral oil?

Might have to change all the rubber (artificial) seals

#11 Post by **mangocrazy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:15 pm

So the rubber seals in our engines (nitrile?) won't withstand mineral oil? Surely semi and fully synthetic oils are just derivatives of mineral oil, admittedly heavily reformulated and with lots of additives, or so I thought.

#12 Post by **Kwackerz** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:20 pm

Citroens used to eat seals with the wrong oil in..... the braking system, which doubled as the hydraulic... on the BX's so I seem to recall. They used 'special' oil and if you put the wrong stuff in (say, DOT4 brake fluid..) it ate the seals.

I cant see mineral oil being a problem on an Aprilia engine apart from possibly the clutch plates. Dont they get upset and slip with the wrong 'sort' of oil?

Happy to be corrected though.

Aladinsaneuk · #13 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:47 pm

I read it

and think that he is talking some sense for some engines.....

but not for an injected machine I think - and, i have a power commander to sort all that lot out :)

and yes, the stealth falco is having its first major fettle of 2009

Renegade mille high mount cans are going on

following the advanced discussions about 2 into 1 and 2 into 2 exhausts I have done a lot of research and reading around

Most interesting point - when edwards was racing the mille, he used both exhaust configurations, depending on the track - some needing torque lower down, some needing grunt at the top end.
So - i decided that the best probable all round solution would be 2 into 1 into 2 cans - and lo and behold I found some.....

The back end of the bike is also having a small make over..... radical - moi?

the fairings are being changed in february - I hope... dependant on a few things that is!

nice thing is that before i took it off the road i did manage to get a few miles in for 2009.... only a couple of hundred but the new rear boot is sort of scrubbed in

Syltiz · #14 Post by **Syltiz** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:01 pm

Kwackerz wrote:14. Dynamic Horsepower

I dont know if we should let the likes of Alad see this one.

http://mototuneusa.com/homework.htm

Isnt his Stealth Falco currently laid up?

Do you think Nooj could fit a hacksaw down his port?

Syltiz · #15 Post by **Syltiz** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:02 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:I read it

and yes, the stealth falco is having its first major fettle of 2009

So - i decided that the best probable all round solution would be 2 into 1 into 2 cans - and lo and behold I found some.....

The back end of the bike is also having a small make over..... radical - moi?

the fairings are being changed in february - I hope... dependant on a few things that is!

nice thing is that before i took it off the road i did manage to get a few miles in for 2009.... only a couple of hundred but the new rear boot is sort of scrubbed in

I love seeing other peoples mods.... how about some 'sneak preview' photos?