Falco wont start !! dash displays "no start"

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sthomson1 · #1 Post by **sthomson1** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:03 pm

Not been out on by bike for a couple of weeks now, went out to the garage to start her...battery was dead.
Charged the battery...she starts...runs really really rough then stalls .. then wont start again .... engine just keeps turning.
also, dash displays "no start".

Ive rcently replace the stand and removed the switch.

Ive ordered a new battery, but, the fact it starts some times and runs roughly makes me think there's another problem .... any ideas ??

cheers
steve

sthomson1 · #2 Post by **sthomson1** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:20 pm

Had a wee look at the spark plugs ... one of the front plugs doesnt seem to be firing very well.
Ive ordered a set of NGK plugs, fingers crossed this fixes it.

Firestarter · #3 Post by **Firestarter** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:45 pm

Check the wiring mod you did on the switch, it might have broken loose

"No start" is usually associated with the tipover switch, so might be worth checking that as well

Falcopops · #4 Post by **Falcopops** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:31 pm

sthomson1 wrote:Had a wee look at the spark plugs ... one of the front plugs doesnt seem to be firing very well.
Ive ordered a set of NGK plugs, fingers crossed this fixes it.

Fouled plugs did for mine a while back and a nice shiny set of Irridiums did the trick (+5bhp too

)

Might want to check the plug caps and leads while you're in there as they can get abused as they're awkward to get too esp. the front one.

sthomson1 · #5 Post by **sthomson1** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:34 pm

wiring mod is a paper clip bridged between the 2 out side wires on the stand switch. is this correct ?

tip over switch ??? where is that located ?

cheers

D-Rider · #6 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:47 pm

sthomson1 wrote:
tip over switch ??? where is that located ?

cheers

Under the rider's seat - make sure you put it back the right way up if you take it out. BTW if I remember right you can't just short it out if it is faulty - when things are OK it has a resistance (can't remember what off the top of my head - have a look in the workshop manual or search this and AF1 forums for the detail)

sthomson1 · #7 Post by **sthomson1** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:59 pm

located the tip over switch (inclination sensor) ... i had it hanging upside down while i was working on the bike .. thats why i was getting the no start message.

Still wont start. Ill update once ive installed the new plugs...hopefully these will fix it.

cheers

minime · #8 Post by **minime** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:26 pm

sthomson1 wrote:located the tip over switch (inclination sensor) ... i had it hanging upside down while i was working on the bike .. thats why i was getting the no start message.

Still wont start. Ill update once ive installed the new plugs...hopefully these will fix it.

cheers

Plugs have nothing to do with the message. Restoring the tipover sensor to it's correct position should solve it.

Pierre · #9 Post by **Pierre** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:19 pm

True, unless its flooded from repeated turning over. DONT keep churning away cos you'll bugger the sprag clutch, dont ask how I know

changing the plugs should sort it or my best mate mr-easy-start in the air tubes

sthomson1 · #10 Post by **sthomson1** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:45 am

Problem solved.... somehow ?????

Removed the 4 spark plugs and cleaned them, recharged battery, checked all connections ... she started 1st time !!!!!

I think maybe it was dampness somewhere, not sure.

Also got the GSXR (gsxr600/750) stand installed and adapted to fit the stand sensor ... way better than original stand, the stance is solid now, plus, it also tucks up nicely behind the bellypan

HowardQ · #11 Post by **HowardQ** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:04 pm

Glad you got it sorted Steve, all you want is some decent weather now so you can get out to play!

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:52 pm

Mine was back to its old trick of starting on one cylinder today .... doesn't half come in with a kick when the other pot joins in .... glad the roads were dry today.

sthomson1 · #13 Post by **sthomson1** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:18 pm

D-Rider wrote:Mine was back to its old trick of starting on one cylinder today .... doesn't half come in with a kick when the other pot joins in .... glad the roads were dry today.

I noticed the front spark plug leads were kind of slack where they clipped onto the spark plugs.
i used long nose pliers to pinch the HT leads together, so they would grip the spark plug a wee bit tighter.

this might be the cause of your problem !! poor contact between lead and plug... ??

EdinburghFalco · #14 Post by **EdinburghFalco** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:16 am

I just fitted iridium plugs and a K & N air filter and the Beast seems to fire up more quickly than before, maybe its my imagination but she seems to pull more strongly from further down the revs too