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Syltiz · #1 Post by **Syltiz** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:14 pm

Out on the A286 in West Sussex, came around a corner seconds after a rider on bandit t-boned a turning car. Scary stuff cos nobody knew first aid and he went into shock almost immediately. All I could do was speak to him and keep him warm and still until help arrived. Signs were good though when they loaded him up in the ambulance.

I've always meant to get first aid training, I think its time I do.

On a more positive note... shortly after that on the A272 I came up behind a bronze Falco. We stopped for a quick chat and I pointed him towards the delights on this forum. Hopefully he joins up.

Samray · #2 Post by **Samray** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:31 pm

Always a character testing time. Well done Sylitz.

Fausto · #3 Post by **Fausto** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:31 pm

I had some first aid training a couple of years ago and can hardly remember any of it.

That's the problem really. I'm sure many of us would wish to be of use in such an incident but it takes a fair amount of training and re-training (well it does for me anyway)

As for a shock victim is there much you can do other than make sure they are moved minimally and can breathe and are kept warm?

Maybe we should have a first aid online course/quiz? How about it Alad?

wavey · #4 Post by **wavey** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:51 pm

I've always meant do do a course never got round to it, so I had a quick google and came up with the following.

http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.c ... geId=94669

http://www.bikesafe.co.uk/bikesafe/firs ... staid.html

http://www.nabd.org.uk/openhouse/openhouse47/47p6.htm

Dave

Aladinsaneuk · #5 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:30 pm

I think the best thing is for people to look at the above links - I am very wary of saying something here that could be wrong - that make sense?

one thing that may make people think a bit - I always use flip front helmets - partly due to me wearing glasses, but also so if needed, anyone can get at my airway quickly - think on it folks

Samray · #6 Post by **Samray** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:47 pm

I had thought Fausto's request was a bit unfair/impractical in this litigious age, but your point on open face helmets is enough to tip the balance for me.
I have been looking at them seriously for some while for a number of reasons.

As well as the glasses business there is quick access for an inhaler or other medication on occasions,

or a cigarette.

Aladinsaneuk · #7 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:06 pm

I did freak people out on the Kill Spills run around london a couple of years ago.... black bike, black leathers, black visor... then up goes the front and a quiet smoke on my pipe.... reduced a few people to giggling fits :)

Fausto's point was a fair one - but to explain a little further - Trained Nurses are not Trained first aiders.
(Though actually, I am but in the main we are not)

Stupidly, by law, we are required to lend assitance at any accident, but we are not trained for it - most of us keep very quiet and do what we can, but with out serious stuff.

I guess the simple advice is, if you find a biker following an accident.

1 Call assistance - even for a low speed off, if in doubt get an ambulance - internal injuries are not easy to see
2 Take control - if no one else has. (IE get people stopping traffic, and clearing space etc)
3 assess rider - conscious or not? breathing or not
4 do not move them, or straighten bent limbs UNLESS there is a need
5 cover them - and keep talking to them - talk about anything, but keep them talking
6 leave the helmet alone UNLESS someone else is there who knows what they are doing and it becomes necessary

just some random thoughts - and yes, I have assisted at a fair few RTA's in my time, but mainly car related, very few bikers