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#1 Post by Kenif » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:23 pm

Ok, getting ready to pick up the new (to me) Mille on Friday. :smt003

Noticed that the Mille suffers the Falco's shite sidestand problem. Does anyone know if the fix is the same (GSXR/VTR replacement)?
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#2 Post by D-Rider » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:37 pm

Well I can't say for absolute certain, but as the stand is the same i've always assumed the same fixes will work.

..... guess someone's got to try it to confirm it .... and that "someone" could be you
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#3 Post by Kenif » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:43 am

Bugger.

Being first should be reserved for racing and sex (what??)

Ah well, Ebay here we come. 'Bout time I recommenced my 'bought it but buggered if I remember why now' collection of things that don't fit :smt009
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#4 Post by Kenif » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:17 pm

Ok, have swapped the Mille stand for my old Falco stand (where I'd had a larger footplate welded on). It fits exactly the same so reckon the VTR/GSXR swap should also work

Fingers crossed, wallet out :smt004
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#5 Post by HowardQ » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:41 pm

Thought it was the same, good luck with it.
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#6 Post by Kenif » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:11 pm

Ok, happy trip to the local breakers. Took a chance and bought a stand from a 2001 Fireblade.
The bracket doesn't fit but the stand makes a good replacement. Had to do the sidestand switch bypass (again) but the bike sits a lot more comfortably. The stand itself fits in perfectly, without any mucking around with welders etc.
So folks, another option for the Falco! :smt004
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#7 Post by Kenif » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:18 am

Okay, how to prove yourself wrong in one easy lesson. The Blade stand removed the traditional problem of bike falling over top of stand. However, it didn't prevent it falling over the over way! :smt010
One new brake lever and indicator currently in the post to me...

The good news is, called DKMotors and they had a Firestorm stand (just arrived) . So, three guesses what this weekend's task is? :smt009
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#8 Post by D-Rider » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:41 am

* Stifles howls of laughter and puts on sympathetic face *

You're really not having much luck with this.

Hope you get the broken bits fixed soon and a working solution to the stand problem.

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#9 Post by Firestarter » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:00 pm

So, what happened - the blade stand put the bike too upright?

Glad you got away without too much damage - no panels or anything get scratched? You got away very lightly in that case.

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#10 Post by Kenif » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:34 pm

Did I not mention the scratches? :smt009 (yes, bike now too upright)

The good thing is, the right hand side nows matches the left :smt003

Fortunately, I take a relatively (ok, very) cavalier attitude to the whole 'cleaning' and 'polishing' bit so I figure that a reasonable accumulation of dirt will soon cover over any sidestand dramas.

That is of course assuming that the 'Storm stand doesn't make it do wheelies in the drive or something...
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#11 Post by Kenif » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:23 pm

Just to update, fitted the 'Storm stand with no dramas. Bike now stands up in the right ie, not falling over, position :smt001

I was so excited by the whole thing that I managed to let the front brake calipers seize up!

Ok, maybe not what happened, but close enough. Just had a week away (using the Falco of course!). Brakes on the Mille felt a bit stiff when i set off Monday but thought, as you do, that they'll free up when I get going with all the stop starting.
Fortunately, traffic was dire. Had a real mare of a journey for the first 3 miles. Just started moving across my lane to go to the second lane and wallop! , front brakes locked solid!!!! :smt013

Oh, the joy, sitting there for 5 minutes waving people past me (imperiously) whilst I sat there, in the middle of the road, completely unable to move.

Thankfully, a fellow at the bus stop opposite came over and offered to give me a hand moving the bike.
After appraising him of the situation, and a loud cry of 'f*ck me, it's heavy', he went back to the bus stop and convinced (argued?) another chap to help.

Between the 3 of us (did I mention the 'just filled up with petrol' bit?), we managed to lift the front end up and cart it across the traffic and onto the pavement.Quick call to Green Flag, recovery to home, pick up the Falco and I was only an hour (or so) late for the first day back after my holiday... :smt009

Oh, the reason I was glad traffic was so bad is that it meant I wasn't doing my customary (legal of course officer) speed and therefore didn't have to do my human cannonball impression as the front brakes jammed :smt003

As a side note, thinking of changing the calipers for Falco ones, anyone selling a set? :smt002

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#12 Post by D-Rider » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:07 am

Just spotted this on the AF1 forum ... wondered whether it might be something to look at re your brake lock up
Old Wanderer on AF1 forum wrote:I had this happen on my RS 250 GP track bike...turns out one of the little pins that hold the brake lining had fallen out allowing the brake pad to rotate forward and pinch the rotor....sure put me upside down in a quick second....

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#13 Post by Kenif » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:25 pm

Ok, another garage session done. It wasn't the pin (nice lateral thinking though). Thoroughly stripped out brakes and only thing I could see was a missing dust seal. Ran them down to a local garage for a check up but all was declared well, clean and fully operational. :smt003

Next suggestion?

Buggered return valve on master cylinder. Got as far as taking off the reservoir before night stopped play!
Anyone had to sort this bit out? Can't see how to take out the little plastic spigot thingy (without breaking it) so I can check the valve?

All suggestions, as ever, gratefully received :smt006
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#14 Post by Kenif » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:21 pm

Ok, all finally sorted, bike collected today. The problem?

The 'cheap' replacement lever!

Turns out, it was badly made and kept the master cylinder permanently compressed (albiet only slightly)

A slight modification, three weeks without the new bike, a litre of brake fluid and £60 later and all done!

Oh, did I mention that the recovery firm's pickup vehicle badly damaged the front tyre wall and now I have to arrange to go and get a new one (paid for, furtunately) :smt009

It's a laugh, innit


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Re: Braking

#15 Post by D-Rider » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:50 pm

Kenif wrote:Ok, all finally sorted, bike collected today. The problem?

The 'cheap' replacement lever!

Turns out, it was badly made and kept the master cylinder permanently compressed (albiet only slightly)

A slight modification, three weeks without the new bike, a litre of brake fluid and £60 later and all done!

Oh, did I mention that the recovery firm's pickup vehicle badly damaged the front tyre wall and now I have to arrange to go and get a new one (paid for, furtunately) :smt009

It's a laugh, innit


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Oooh - think this has happened previously with a cheap replacement lever - I've an idea it was Pierre that had the problem.

This is a worry and potentially extremely dangerous.

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