Reckon you need an mille oil cooler?

[Nooj]

I reckon not. If you want to fit a Mille/Tuono oil tank to your Falco try making something like this up from some old copper pipe and a couple of 90* bends:



It will go from the spigot on top left corner of the Falco cooler matrix, attaching with a small bit of the original pipe, down the side of the cooler and in front of the Mille oil tank, before meeting up with the remaining length of the original hose from the bottom of the oil tank.

With it being made of copper it won't rust through and the VHT paint won't flake, it'll just sit there looking like part of the bike that's always been there.

[Falcopops]

Looks a bit like my kids toy snorkel!

Need to see it fitted, nice fettle BTW

[sabestian]

Looks decent, if only I had skills to do that...

[Syltiz]

Ok smartypants... now find a way to use the Falco oil tank and avoid the bellypan problems

[D-Rider]

Ok smartypants... now find a way to use the Falco oil tank and avoid the bellypan problems

I reckon the solution is to modify the exhaust - use the Falco front header and modify the mille mid-section to mate with it.
What I need is a tame stainless welder who can do this quickly without me having to take my bike off the road for a while (they'd need the bike anyway to make sure all the bits lined up correctly).
I'm fairly convinced that has to be the best solution.

Another complication (of course) is that there are 2 different Mille exhaust systems that can be used for this conversion - the mid sections are radically different ..... still, as long as it works for mine .....

(BTW I'm not ignoring your bellypan PM, Dom- just thinking ....
Will get back to you soon)

[mangocrazy]

Are the Mille pipe mid-sections free of that annoying 'flattened with a lump hammer' bit that doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose?

[D-Rider]

Are the Mille pipe mid-sections free of that annoying 'flattened with a lump hammer' bit that doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose?

LOL - of course they are .... there is no pipe on that side - it doesn't exist.

BTW I think that dent may be more than just because it is near the sidestand. I was looking at my old Falco system the other day as I tidied up my garage. There is another dent you can't easily see on the other side - right at the bend. At a quick glance it looks like it's a feature of the bend but if you look at all the other bends, they are more round - so I think the restriction is there for a purpose.

It's not a case of treating the two cylinders differently as the Falco exhaust is joined in the mid-section .... it's not a true 2into2 system - more a 2into1into2.

[mangocrazy]

Are the Mille pipe mid-sections free of that annoying 'flattened with a lump hammer' bit that doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose?

LOL - of course they are .... there is no pipe on that side - it doesn't exist.

Er yes... I knew that...

It's not a case of treating the two cylinders differently as the Falco exhaust is joined in the mid-section .... it's not a true 2into2 system - more a 2into1into2.

More like a 2 into 2 with a balance pipe? Has anyone been bothered to check if each cylinder's pipe lengths are equal? And are Rene the only purveyors of a full Falco system?

Questions, questions, all I have are questions...

[Nooj]

This is how it fits on the bike, it's a very tight squeeze, but it's in there and not straining the hose or rubbing on anything.



I'm sticking with the Renegade full system rather than swapping to the Mille headers, which means I've got a fair amount of room under the bike, between the oil tank and the front down pipe, to fit something special into, :D

[Fausto]

Looks like a clever solution to whatever problem it was.

My only very slight concern would be the grip of the flexi oil pipes on the new copper pipe. Usually these joints involve forcing the hose over a flange on the end of the spigot so that with a hose clip fitted it can't come off.

With both joints facing the same way is it at all possible that once hot and possibly lubricated by oil the copper pipe could travel upwards and disconnect itself?

Probably not though. I'm sure you have it covered Nooj but saying it all the same for safety sake.

[Nooj]

I wondered about that, but having tried to twist them off with the jubilee clips done up nice and tight, they didn't want to move. The VHT paint has quite a corse finish which should aid grip as well.

[D-Rider]

If it were a problem, maybe soldering a conex olive on the end of the pipe would sort you out.

[Nooj]

I don't think the hose would go over anything wider than that pipe, it took all my strength to get it on as it was. If it is a problem I'll just make another section out of some smaller bore tubing and have some kind of flange or as you say, olive, on each end.