Having recently bought a Falco, I'm hitting the forums regularly for information and starting off a few topics. All of the ones I've raised have (logically enough to me) been raised in the 'Falco' section, as that seemed the obvious place for them.
I checked back again today and at least two of the topics I've started have been moved to 'Aprilia Technical'. Now I can understand this (up to a point) as it's desirable to keep all technical posts in one area.
But the problem to me is that Falco technical posts fall between two stools. On one hand they are very definitely unique to Falcos. On the other hand they are technical, and related to Aprilia...
My concern is that the Aprilia technical section will have posts in there relating to RSVs, Tuonos, Shivers, Futuras etc. etc. and there will almost certainly be nothing in the subject line to say what bike the post is about. Which means it will be a time-consuming affair trying to find stuff in there.
But if all Falco-related stuff (technical or not) was in one place it would make it much easier to locate. Wouldn't it?
The alternative would be to clearly label all topic titles on the Aprilia Technical area with the Aprilia model to which they relate, so that people don't spend hours trawling through topics to find what they want. Any thoughts?
What area should I be posting in?
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Speaking as the one who moved them...
Your last comment is spot on.
You may, or may not (this is the whole forum, not you personally) have noticed the lack of other ARS members with different Aprilias.. This I personally put down to the fact there's nothing in any of the other forums on ARS.
This lack of posts elsewhere on the ARS forums, BUT for the Falco forum basically is killing off any chance ARS has of maintaining itself in the future... Falcos wont last forever in sufficient numbers to keep the Site going..
As one of the Website Administrators, Ive got a duty if you like to try and keep it going.. ARS that is..(and the other Sites within RS) which is why you'll find tech topics moved.
A lot of what is mentioned with reference to Falcos will apply to some of the other bikes too, be it by the fact theyre similar (Falco/Tuono/Mille) or by the sheer fact that half the others can be found on a Falco...! There's probably more decent Mille Swingarms in existance on Falcos than there are on Milles nowadays...
I know the Falconeers like to stay in their little box, but despite numbers, ARS isnt just 'property of the falco'. It's Aprilia RiderSite. I dont mind it having the biggest Falco forum, but I dont want to alienate other model owners by the way the Site is managed
The alternative would be to clearly label all topic titles on the Aprilia Technical area with the Aprilia model to which they relate, so that people don't spend hours trawling through topics to find what they want. Any thoughts?
Your last comment is spot on.
You may, or may not (this is the whole forum, not you personally) have noticed the lack of other ARS members with different Aprilias.. This I personally put down to the fact there's nothing in any of the other forums on ARS.
This lack of posts elsewhere on the ARS forums, BUT for the Falco forum basically is killing off any chance ARS has of maintaining itself in the future... Falcos wont last forever in sufficient numbers to keep the Site going..
As one of the Website Administrators, Ive got a duty if you like to try and keep it going.. ARS that is..(and the other Sites within RS) which is why you'll find tech topics moved.
A lot of what is mentioned with reference to Falcos will apply to some of the other bikes too, be it by the fact theyre similar (Falco/Tuono/Mille) or by the sheer fact that half the others can be found on a Falco...! There's probably more decent Mille Swingarms in existance on Falcos than there are on Milles nowadays...
I know the Falconeers like to stay in their little box, but despite numbers, ARS isnt just 'property of the falco'. It's Aprilia RiderSite. I dont mind it having the biggest Falco forum, but I dont want to alienate other model owners by the way the Site is managed
All of the above understood and agreed with...... but.....
Is it possible to duplicate threads in more than one section?
So that if I spot a thread in say the Falco section and answer it my answer would automatically be added to the thread wherever else it appeared?
My guess is that this has already been thought of and rejected as impossible/too difficult.... but you never know.
Is it possible to duplicate threads in more than one section?
So that if I spot a thread in say the Falco section and answer it my answer would automatically be added to the thread wherever else it appeared?
My guess is that this has already been thought of and rejected as impossible/too difficult.... but you never know.
Ah - the can of worms has it's top ripped off again .....
Technical things should go in the technical area as that is believed to make searching easier at some future date .... yet at the time if it's a hot topic, it often is more pertinent to the Falco forum.
What has been said in the past is that these things can be posted up in the Falco section and then when they are not a hot topic any longer, Rich or myself are supposed to sneak in and move them over to where they should be ..... but I seldom remember to do that.
My guess is that in a fit of frustration with the ineffective Falco Moderators, the real-deal people who do the job a bit better have been having a tidy up .... and as the Falco chaps aren't used to this, it's bothered a few people.
Perhaps a good way to get things in the right place would be to post them in the appropriate section and then put another thread in the "wrong" section (eg the Falco one) pointing people to the one with the real content (you may have seen that I remember to do this sometimes).
So, hands up, it's really my fault for not keeping things a bit tidier and getting people used to where things should be ....
I'm preparing to go into hiding as soon as the cries go out for the next moderator burning session ...
Technical things should go in the technical area as that is believed to make searching easier at some future date .... yet at the time if it's a hot topic, it often is more pertinent to the Falco forum.
What has been said in the past is that these things can be posted up in the Falco section and then when they are not a hot topic any longer, Rich or myself are supposed to sneak in and move them over to where they should be ..... but I seldom remember to do that.
My guess is that in a fit of frustration with the ineffective Falco Moderators, the real-deal people who do the job a bit better have been having a tidy up .... and as the Falco chaps aren't used to this, it's bothered a few people.
Perhaps a good way to get things in the right place would be to post them in the appropriate section and then put another thread in the "wrong" section (eg the Falco one) pointing people to the one with the real content (you may have seen that I remember to do this sometimes).
So, hands up, it's really my fault for not keeping things a bit tidier and getting people used to where things should be ....
I'm preparing to go into hiding as soon as the cries go out for the next moderator burning session ...
I can move, as can the mods, threads from Falco to Tech and leave a 'shadow' in the falco fourm, but to be honest it looks fucking wank having
[Moved] How do I change this/that
on every other thread... I could do it that way but really, it does look shite. Trust me.
It doesnt make searching any easier either in reality by having the falco tech threads in falco forum as it's as equally time consuming searching thru reams of threads on a non falco tech nature as it would be in the tech area searching thru the extra few threads not of a falco tech nature..
The moan that 'oh but i wouldnt know where to search, it could be in falco or the Tech area' falls on deaf ears too. it's simple. The Aprilia Tech area. Thats where Aprilia motorcycle tech threads go. We have a very good search facility too., it will find the stuff you need to know quite well if used.
As to why stuff was moved 'all of a sudden', not a fit of frustration.. more a 'right time for a tidy up while ive got time'
Hopefully that clarifies the matter.
[Moved] How do I change this/that
on every other thread... I could do it that way but really, it does look shite. Trust me.
It doesnt make searching any easier either in reality by having the falco tech threads in falco forum as it's as equally time consuming searching thru reams of threads on a non falco tech nature as it would be in the tech area searching thru the extra few threads not of a falco tech nature..
The moan that 'oh but i wouldnt know where to search, it could be in falco or the Tech area' falls on deaf ears too. it's simple. The Aprilia Tech area. Thats where Aprilia motorcycle tech threads go. We have a very good search facility too., it will find the stuff you need to know quite well if used.
As to why stuff was moved 'all of a sudden', not a fit of frustration.. more a 'right time for a tidy up while ive got time'
Hopefully that clarifies the matter.Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly
Kwackerz wrote:I can move, as can the mods, threads from Falco to Tech and leave a 'shadow' in the falco fourm, but to be honest it looks fucking wank having
[Moved] How do I change this/that
on every other thread... I could do it that way but really, it does look shite. Trust me.
It doesnt make searching any easier either in reality by having the falco tech threads in falco forum as it's as equally time consuming searching thru reams of threads on a non falco tech nature as it would be in the tech area searching thru the extra few threads not of a falco tech nature..
The moan that 'oh but i wouldnt know where to search, it could be in falco or the Tech area' falls on deaf ears too. it's simple. The Aprilia Tech area. Thats where Aprilia motorcycle tech threads go. We have a very good search facility too., it will find the stuff you need to know quite well if used.
As to why stuff was moved 'all of a sudden', not a fit of frustration.. more a 'right time for a tidy up while ive got time'
It also causes multiple responses some of which might not get transferred.
I'll start a new thread for what I'm thinking
Its not something that fits in this thread except as a reference.-
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Sorry but this has to be said. I know we have to have logical and tidy on the forum, I've worked in IT for more than 40 years and this has to be done,
but let's not try to upset/confuse people.
First of all some facts that we all have to face -
Whether it is "healthy" or not, most of the regular users on this site are Falco owners or ex Falco owners.
Most of these people, (myself included), almost always go to the Falco section first, and some (not including myself), do not regularly look in any other area.
Most of the Falco owners are also on the AF1 site, where recently they seem to post more often than they do on here.
(cause for concern)
A few of them, now rarely post on here, so I think it is!
When Falco members sell their Falcos, they either stop posting or post less than the used to do on here, for whatever reason most don't just stay on the general RiderSite
Recently more old RiderSite people are coming back, probably as they see it has become a lot busier since the Falco owners joined up.
So do we want to keep this site healthy?
I hope so, but we all need to work at it.
I sometimes look on AF1 but have only posted once, and want this site to grow for Falco and other users, but so far it hasn't grown much, as most (all??) postings in the Honda a Kwak forums have come from people already on the site.
Lets all be careful how we do things, we don't want to lose any more Falco members or any others.
but let's not try to upset/confuse people.
First of all some facts that we all have to face -
Whether it is "healthy" or not, most of the regular users on this site are Falco owners or ex Falco owners.
Most of these people, (myself included), almost always go to the Falco section first, and some (not including myself), do not regularly look in any other area.
Most of the Falco owners are also on the AF1 site, where recently they seem to post more often than they do on here.
(cause for concern)
A few of them, now rarely post on here, so I think it is!
When Falco members sell their Falcos, they either stop posting or post less than the used to do on here, for whatever reason most don't just stay on the general RiderSite
Recently more old RiderSite people are coming back, probably as they see it has become a lot busier since the Falco owners joined up.
So do we want to keep this site healthy?
I hope so, but we all need to work at it.
I sometimes look on AF1 but have only posted once, and want this site to grow for Falco and other users, but so far it hasn't grown much, as most (all??) postings in the Honda a Kwak forums have come from people already on the site.
Lets all be careful how we do things, we don't want to lose any more Falco members or any others.