Hey Myrrk.

[Samray]

They heard bout you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7200066.stm

[D-Rider]

They heard bout you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7200066.stm

This has got to be a complete load of b@~~@x.
Don't think I've ever known anyone that hasn't paid their tax (other than forgetting to renew for a few weeks).

Of course there will be some .... but nearly half of us? You've got to be kidding!

[Samray]

I found it totally unbelievable. i.e. I don't believe it.
Fks where they fekked up the stats but it must include track bikes, race bikes, sorned bikes, mini-motos and every bike in a showroom I should think.

[Kwackerz]

What peeves me off morethan anything..apart from the complete cobblers those figures can be clearly seen to be..

Is that the BBC dont credit the reporter/writer of the article.

I want Blood.

NOW


Some snivelling wretch has sat there and compiled that article out of snippets of information from various sources at various times, omitting various crucial figures.

We've had loads of floods in 2006. 40% Unregistered? How many of those bikes were underwater and sorned? How many underwater and still trying to square away the damn paperwork..that got washed away..with the DVLA. How many were indeed racebikes (sorned).. How many were bikers who didnt fancy riding in the wet weather of last year so sorned their bikes? How many faced hardship cos of the bloody government and their various moneymaking schemes that have skinted everyone, so Sorned their bikes? How many were Squaddies who couldnt register, or had sorned their bikes while theyre away sorting out the government's shite for them in sandy places. What percentage was just complete fabrication?

Writing to my MP in a min. Want answers.

[D-Rider]

Posted this one up on the Coventry Bikers Forum.

The views there are:

A) Disbelief

B) Figures will include scooter riding chavs that haven't taxed (OK so chavs have their issues but there is a bit of a chav-hate tarring-all-with-same brush thing ongoing on that forum)

C) People having second bikes or bikes bought for spares for which SORNs have not been renewed

BTW how do these SORN things work? Do I need one for my 400/4 ? (maybe I'm contributing to the figures). I've had the bike since 1977 and it has been off the road since before SORNs were introduced. I've never given it a second thought.

[Kwackerz]

I think you'll find you need to but wont get a penalty. I had the same when it first started, with a FIAT car.. Actually i think you'll have trouble getting it on the road again as they had a purge on new v5's . Old ones that havent had road tax, etc registered against them for a while got dropped off the system..I think... not sure.. remember Ebayers starting to state whether they had old or new V5 when they came in..

[Samray]

When I found that report it was already making news all round the world, literally, that 1/2 of Brit bikers didn't tax em.

[Samray]

From further investigation it seems it is a resurrected story from 6 months back and those figures were projected from a small sample taken somewhere, sometime, and reinvented to provide the said stats.

The DVLA sent people out to take down the registration number of every passing vehicle and they then checked this against the tax database. This yielded a figure of 16 per cent evasion for bikes. They then ran this through a computer model working on the assumption that untaxed bikes are ridden less and arrived at a figure of 38 per cent.

http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog/2007/09 ... tted-dvla/

[snapdragon]

From further investigation it seems it is a resurrected story from 6 months back and those figures were projected from a small sample taken somewhere, sometime, and reinvented to provide the said stats.

The DVLA sent people out to take down the registration number of every passing vehicle and they then checked this against the tax database. This yielded a figure of 16 per cent evasion for bikes. They then ran this through a computer model working on the assumption that untaxed bikes are ridden less and arrived at a figure of 38 per cent.

http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog/2007/09 ... tted-dvla/

mickey mouse bloody organisation couldnt do the deed in a brothel

so 16% - right - out of how many two wheeled vehicles? 8? 10? 20? Did they write it down correctly - I can just imagine 'em - "ABC 12 ? <looks again-vehicle has gone> err was that a six or an eight? ah well I'll put nine it won't matter"
and which road ? the back street behind their office? motorway? or tesc@s carpark?

what a total crock

[graham0071]

I own up!! it woz me that rode round the same block six times on an un-taxed bike that I was just trying to get right for the M.O.T. I remember seeing the bloke with the clip board....sorry!!

[Samray]

[graham0071]

P.S. Snapdragon, you are amazing.. the block I was riding round was the back street behind their offices.....in ...err Swansea...ermm,,, wot woz I doing there?? maybe it wozn't me!!.. delete this quick you idiot..! Too late!! made me look a total plonker again! .

[Myrkk]

LOL Samray......the bike is SORN'd honest guv It's the car that wasn't taxed. And it was all the post offices fault...honest

P.S. Snapdragon, you are amazing.. the block I was riding round was the back street behind their offices.....in ...err Swansea...ermm,,, wot woz I doing there?? maybe it wozn't me!!.. delete this quick you idiot..! Too late!! made me look a total plonker again! .

Yep, especially 'cause there isn't a back street around either of their offices in Swansea

[graham0071]

[Pierre]

I heard it on the radio. The funny part was they sent a reporter down to the bike park and checked 4 bikes - all taxed. Then they interviewed a biker who just pulled up - he was also taxed.

So she checked 5 bikes and 5 were taxed. Interview continued " and so anyway, the figures show 4 out of 10 bikes arent paying road tax" WTF 5/5 YOU IDIOT BINT