EU constitution petition

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Gio · #1 Post by **Gio** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:57 am

Do you want to vote on it?

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/euconstitution?e

fastasfcuk · #2 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:00 am

done,i do'nt think we will get one though,b-st---'-

Samray · #3 Post by **Samray** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:30 am

This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing.

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Gio · #4 Post by **Gio** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:46 am

Samray wrote:This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing.
Petition

Now that she's come out and said it thats it stuffed, stupid Sun

Oh and 1800 times bigger, crap, it can't make up its mind how many

ALMOST 40,000 Sun readers last night demanded a say on the rejigged EU Constitution.

An overwhelming 98 PER CENT of those answering our battle cry backed the campaign for a referendum on giving away British power.

In our You The Jury poll, 26,471 phoned the YES line in favour of having a vote while only 622 voted NO.

Meanwhile, 12,142 signed our online petition.

12,000 signatories as aginst the official sites 20,000

Its signatures you want not some dreamed up number by a crap newspaper.

Samray · #5 Post by **Samray** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:29 am

more than 18,000 signed our online petition.

Signatures | Total: 955

Bit early to have been at the bottle Gio.

D-Rider · #6 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:02 pm

Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.

fastasfcuk · #7 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:54 pm

D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.

you trust mp's.

D-Rider · #8 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:59 pm

fastasfcuk wrote:
D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
you trust mp's.

I didn't say that - but I trust them more than the tabloid press and the implicit trust that a large proportion of the population put in everything they read.

Samray · #9 Post by **Samray** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:04 pm

I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense.

Gio · #10 Post by **Gio** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:06 pm

Samray wrote:I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense.

I'd agree with that.

The only good politician is a bent politician (well according to them).

fastasfcuk · #11 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm

it's not a question of takeing what the press says as gospel,this thing was buried by the french and the dutch so we should'nt have to be begging for a vote,to bring it back under another name is where they've lost my trust.

Nooj · #12 Post by **Nooj** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Is this for or against going into Europe full time??

lazarus · #13 Post by **lazarus** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:28 am

no I dont want a vote on it - or to be accurate, I dont want Joe Public to have a vote on it. Because Joe Public wont read the text of the Treaty, wont think it through, and will vote based on blind prejudice and mis-information fed to him by the likes of the Daily Mail.

We live in a representative democrasy - we elect MPs to vote as they thin fit on our behalf. You might or might not think they do a bad job, but at least most of them are interested enough in politics to learn what its all about.

Samray · #14 Post by **Samray** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:41 am

You have as little faith in Joe Public as the politicians do Lazarus.
The difference is that Joe Public put them there.

I must check the various rags' circulation figures.

Nooj · #15 Post by **Nooj** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:17 pm

We live in a representative democrasy

Nope, we live in a dictatorship, we the citizens have no say at all over what laws are passed, once a government is placed in power it can do whatever the hell it likes and we just have to sit and take it. The only time this couuntry is a true democracy is when we're voting in a general election and as soon as the votes are counted and a government appointed we go back to being in a dictatorship again.

Lazarus is right, the majority of people who would vote on this given the choice would be miss-informed half-wits who believe what they read in the papers.