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Daytime running lights

#1 Post by Kwackerz » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:12 pm

From MAG's FEMA news section:
Daytime Running Lights for all Vehicles Throughout Europe?

Not at the expense of motorcyclists!


The EC’s consultation on Daytime Running Lights (DRL) closed on November 17th. FEMA’s campaign to stop compulsory Daytime Running Lights for all vehicles becoming a pan-European requirement received a major boost at FIA seminar on DRL this week.

At a seminar organised by the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) following the closing of the EC consultation on DRL, representatives of FEMA and MAG UK, very concerned by the EC’s intention to introduce compulsory DRL for all vehicles throughout Europe, challenged the road safety benefits of DRL, questioning the validity of the research on which the European Commission’s proposal was based and sought reassurance that the consultation process within the European Union would not be negated by decisions taken at the United Nations.

It seemed clear to FEMA that the car manufacturers, light manufacturers and a number of road safety, research organisations and car drivers’ clubs, who appear to believe that it is acceptable for motorcyclists to be more at risk of being killed if it will save the life of more car drivers, will continue to push for compulsory DRL.

We were pleased however to see support for our concerns that DRL would result in a loss of conspicuity for motorcyclists, by the British Government. Senior official from the UK Department for Transport, Ian Yarnold, together with a representative of the Transport Research Laboratory, Ian Knight, raised serious doubts about the wisdom of making DRL an issue for European harmonisation and questioned a number of the conclusions reached in the research supporting DRL. Most importantly they maintained that any benefits of DRL would be far outweighed by the costs.

We were further encouraged when the Head of the European Commission’s road safety unit, Dr. Totsmann, said that the widespread concerns raised by motorcyclists and other vulnerable road user groups within the consultation process required the Commission to give further consideration to the matter and to engage in discussions with all stakeholders. He further stated that there would be no question of the Commission introducing a measure that would benefit one category of road user to the disadvantage of any other group of road users.

FEMA new General Secretary, Aline Delhaye, says: “We all agree on the overall objective of improving road safety; however FEMA can not accept the current safety-based tactics launched by the pro-DRL lobbies taking advantage of the 2010 casualty reduction objective. Every life whether a car driver, a motorcyclist, a cyclist of a pedestrian, is worth the same. Raising the risk of one category of road users at the cost of saving another is simply ethically unacceptable. I am encouraged by the Commission’s recent statement reassuring FEMA that no measure that would endanger any category of road users would be implemented.”

To that effect, the announcement of a roundtable with all stakeholders should be seen as a step forward as FEMA does appear at last to have the decision makers prepared to listen to motorcyclists’ concerns.

Note: FEMA detailed position on Daytime Running Lights can be found Here

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Aline Delhaye
FEMA General Secretary

My bold..

Sounds like at least one thing is going in a positive direction for Bikers!

or is it just a certain Aline bigging themselves up?
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#2 Post by Gio » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:05 pm

I think the trouble is caused by manufacturers rather than government or the 'pro' lights lobby.

Its cheaper to make hard wired lights for all vehicles as they don't need switches/relays.

Its also possible to circumvent hard wired lights, ie on my GS you hold the cancel down for 4 seconds then push the right indicator, this cuts out the headlight. However a warning comes up 'bulb failure', which is used on all the bikes light circuits (indicators/dashboard/rear lights and brakes) so by doing that if say my brake light fails I get no warning, a positive hazard IMO.
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#3 Post by Falco9 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:40 pm

I've just taken delivery of an new car just before Xmas. It was impossible to turn the lights off and the supplying dealer just said it was now standard and could not be switched off (I have a Skoda)

I told him bo**ocks it's not standard or compulsory (well not yet) 2 days of swapping niceities /comments ensued before my local dealer turned them off in 5 mins flat using the software supplied via VAG group

Most car drivers don't bother looking properly anyway (we all know that) but some bikers don't help themselves either. Now I'm not for compulsory headlights for bikes (although I always run with the dip beam on) but over Xmas, on a typical foggy crappy day as I'm pulling out of our street onto the main drag, out of gloom 10 metres in front of me appears GPZ500 man with no lights on at all, bl**dy madness, if he got where he was going at all that day then Xmas was a miracle for someone!

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