The 'oldies share their wisdom' thread

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Re: The 'oldies share their wisdom' thread

#31 Post by stefanb » Wed May 20, 2020 10:24 am

So what is your approach to riding in those situations? Do you follow the line of the car wheels where it gets dry? You will eventually have to get off those lines.. Or do you just reduce your speed overall by 30/40% to cover this loss of grip?

Riding a learner bike at the moment I hate having to deal with drivers that get glued to my rear wheel even if I m doing the speed limit and there is no way they are passing me when there are loads of tight blind corners.Even if I wasn t on a learner bike I probably wouldn t take those corners any faster due to their tight narrow nature and not knowing what is on the other side. Sometimes tapping my rear break light gets them to notice me and back off...but not all the time. How do you guys handle cars doing that?

And what is up with the speed limits? I ride on some narrow country roads where in some corners I don t really see two cars fitting without one of them stopping or some roads where two cars just fit in the lanes and my google maps says speed limit 60... I get off that road on a wide double carriageway where the speed limit is 50? :smt042

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Re: The 'oldies share their wisdom' thread

#32 Post by yello » Wed May 20, 2020 12:25 pm

stefanb wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:24 am
I hate having to deal with drivers that get glued to my rear wheel even if I m doing the speed limit
I hear you, a pet hate of mine too.

Sadly that is, ime, just one of those things that you have to get used to. Some drivers have no appreciation of the stopping distance of a motorcycle in the wet, they don't appreciate that you're going to be way more careful than in the dry. They have the luxury of much superior braking in wet conditions so there'll be no grabbing handfuls of brake late into a bend (or approaching traffic lights) rather a more considered roll-off of throttle from a greater distance. We don't all ride like Barry Sheene/Mick Doohan/Valentino Rossi/Marc Marquez* (*according to your age group)

My only advice would be to try and not let it unnerve you and/or, if necessary and safe to do so, pull over and let them go. You really don't need added hassles when riding in the wet.

As for sh*t on roads, you've pretty much nailed it; conservative lines, ease off the throttle and vigilance. Where I live, we get a fair amount of diesel spill (tractors and the like) and so I have been known to be perhaps overly careful on damp autumnal mornings, where I can't be 100% sure that the twinkling patch on the road ahead is diesel or just early morning damp/frost.

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Re: The 'oldies share their wisdom' thread

#33 Post by fatboy » Wed May 20, 2020 3:40 pm

Way too many car drivers simply don't understand the vulnerability of bike riders, they get too comfortable with air bag protection and they believe ABS will stop them no matter what....
Here is something that you should always bear in mind, your 'vanishing point'
Put quite simply, if you can't stop in the distance of clear road you can see ahead of you then you're going too fast.
As for cars sat on your ass, let them pass when you can
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