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Starter Sprag Clutch questions

#1 Post by MattG#116 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:03 pm

Hi Guys.
I think my sprag is on its way out. I have recently had problems starting it, checked/changed battery (not that) changed starter relay as voltage in, nothing out when button pressed. Anyway that cured it for a very short time! So wouldn't start again, cleaned up the contacts all around relay etc. and got it going... it stopped again yesterday. Again, power into starter relay, nothing out. Then with no reason it fired off the button again (???) anyway, with that I had grinding/knocking during start up... suggesting sprag going. Few questions -

1. I have been quoted £234 + VAT just for starter sprag clutch... that seems steep, is it?
2. Where is the sprag clutch located?
3. Is it a big job?
4. How much should I expect to pay to get this done?

And the big one. Due to lack of funds (with wedding coming), space and time if I decided to let it go as is, would anyone be interested?
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Re: Starter Sprag Clutch questions

#2 Post by blinkey501 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:10 pm

MattG#116 wrote:Hi Guys.
I think my sprag is on its way out. I have recently had problems starting it, checked/changed battery (not that) changed starter relay as voltage in, nothing out when button pressed. Anyway that cured it for a very short time! So wouldn't start again, cleaned up the contacts all around relay etc. and got it going... it stopped again yesterday. Again, power into starter relay, nothing out. Then with no reason it fired off the button again (???) anyway, with that I had grinding/knocking during start up... suggesting sprag going. Few questions -

1. I have been quoted £234 + VAT just for starter sprag clutch... that seems steep, is it?
2. Where is the sprag clutch located?
3. Is it a big job?
4. How much should I expect to pay to get this done?

And the big one. Due to lack of funds (with wedding coming), space and time if I decided to let it go as is, would anyone be interested?

Let it go Really????? Done three sprag clutches now mate.
234+ vat is that fitted?

You can get a sprag from griff for around 80 quid.

To know where its located read this.... https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.php?t=4473

With sprag, stator cover gasket oil and filter you are looking at around 125 quid for everything.

It takes someone with experience around 2-3 hours.

Alternatively bring it to me. A good bottle of scotch should be about right :smt023
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#3 Post by fatboy » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:10 pm

The sprag clutch is around £80/90.
It is not a complicated job but can become complicated if you get it wrong.
Needs a bit of know how ect.
My advice is to get in touch with Blinkey and bribe the man with his chosen bottle of single malt, far better than the price you have been given !
PS, think your starting problems are what killed the sprag so a little look over may be needed
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#4 Post by MattG#116 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:43 pm

Thanks for the comments/feedback/advise.

Hopefully Jay can help us out :smt001 be good to keep the old bird on the road.
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#5 Post by MartDude » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:54 pm

MattG#116 wrote: be good to keep the old bird on the road.
That's no way to talk about your future wife
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#6 Post by MattG#116 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:08 pm

MartDude wrote:
MattG#116 wrote: be good to keep the old bird on the road.
That's no way to talk about your future wife
lucky she doesnt read it :-D
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#7 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:08 pm

....

you like to live life dangerously.....


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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Re: Starter Sprag Clutch questions

#8 Post by MattG#116 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:43 pm

blinkey501 wrote:
MattG#116 wrote:Hi Guys.
I think my sprag is on its way out. I have recently had problems starting it, checked/changed battery (not that) changed starter relay as voltage in, nothing out when button pressed. Anyway that cured it for a very short time! So wouldn't start again, cleaned up the contacts all around relay etc. and got it going... it stopped again yesterday. Again, power into starter relay, nothing out. Then with no reason it fired off the button again (???) anyway, with that I had grinding/knocking during start up... suggesting sprag going. Few questions -

1. I have been quoted £234 + VAT just for starter sprag clutch... that seems steep, is it?
2. Where is the sprag clutch located?
3. Is it a big job?
4. How much should I expect to pay to get this done?

And the big one. Due to lack of funds (with wedding coming), space and time if I decided to let it go as is, would anyone be interested?

Let it go Really????? Done three sprag clutches now mate.
234+ vat is that fitted?

You can get a sprag from griff for around 80 quid.

To know where its located read this.... https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.php?t=4473

With sprag, stator cover gasket oil and filter you are looking at around 125 quid for everything.

It takes someone with experience around 2-3 hours.

Alternatively bring it to me. A good bottle of scotch should be about right :smt023
I would like to thank Jay (Blinkey501...) for his help and patients on Saturday with my Falco. Genuine good guy! So the sprag was fine (so I have a gooden if anyone needs one). He checked my clutch jet for me, changed oil and checked levels etc. and removed the problematic immobiliser system which seems to have been my starting problem. Fingers crossed all done. Thanks Jay!!
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#9 Post by fatboy » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:35 pm

Result !
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