My last rant about the uk and having been laid off for the third time in about 18 months I registered for jobeseekers. I say registered because that is all I'm allowed to do ! Apparently because they disallowed my previous claim I don't have enough contributions in the last 2 years to qualify
Oh well at least the dentist is free ... Oh wait no it wasn't because it is only free if you haven't paid NI ! If you have contributed as I have for a long working life you pay even if you are in receipt or not of jobeseekers !
I can feel the lure of a protest vote seeming more appealing :( if it wasn't so ridiculous I'd cry now to sell some stuff to pay for the nursery as we don't get any freebies there either and can't give up the place without a full months notice
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flatlander
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Following on from
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
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The system set up to provide a safety net for those in your position has sadly become something only the feckless and non-native can take advantage of. You could do down the route of writing to your local MP. With the General Election coming up in the not too distant future, you may find you'll get a half decent response from him/her. In your letter, don't forget to mention a certain Independence for the UK Party.. 
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flatlander
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Spoke to him in person about RBS being a bunch of feckless loons corrupt from the bottom up ... He sent me a nice letter about adoption as I'd mentioned that we had looked into it and been told 7 years by which time we would be too old
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
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flatlander
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It was too true to be funny :(
Anyway spoke with job centre apparently in 2012 when I worked full time for a company for the whole year HMRC haven't communicated that I paid any NI ... The rep said roll on universal credit oh and if the wife works more than 24 hours you don't get anything but less and they will look at income related benefit such as paying the mortgage interest so I just need to get her not to try to work so hard and I will get free money
Anyway spoke with job centre apparently in 2012 when I worked full time for a company for the whole year HMRC haven't communicated that I paid any NI ... The rep said roll on universal credit oh and if the wife works more than 24 hours you don't get anything but less and they will look at income related benefit such as paying the mortgage interest so I just need to get her not to try to work so hard and I will get free money
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
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Firestarter
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We live in a crazy world, where it can pay to not work. Much as I agree we should help and support those that can't support themselves, when those that do pay in to the system can't get that help then surely there's something wrong.flatlander wrote:It was too true to be funny :(
Anyway spoke with job centre apparently in 2012 when I worked full time for a company for the whole year HMRC haven't communicated that I paid any NI ... The rep said roll on universal credit oh and if the wife works more than 24 hours you don't get anything but less and they will look at income related benefit such as paying the mortgage interest so I just need to get her not to try to work so hard and I will get free money
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It is a crazy world when it does not pay to work, way, way too many people needing to claim in work benefits in order to survive, this means taxpayers, (like the ones needing to claim in work benefits) are subsidising emloyers that pay shit wages.
Sod the workers, think of the shareholders
Sod the workers, think of the shareholders
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I have every sympathy - back when my Hubby had cancer, he was paying THREE lots of NI (it's copmplicated) - and NO-ONE would pay him even any basic sick pay!
He did get it sorted later due to being pretty bloody-minded about getting ripped off, and contacting the MP, and all sorts of other shenanigans. It's disgusting - what the hell do we pay NI for anyway?
He did get it sorted later due to being pretty bloody-minded about getting ripped off, and contacting the MP, and all sorts of other shenanigans. It's disgusting - what the hell do we pay NI for anyway?
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The system is simple mate, murder somebody!
You'll get a slap on the wrist, worst case 6 weeks community service and 3 points on your license, at which point you will be allowed to claim for:
Unemployment benefit (not jobseekers because the terms dictate that if you're motivated and want work then you're not eligible and you can starve on the street)
Housing benefit (under the strict agreement that you pop out an extra kid every year and they can 'upgrade' your house for free to give you enough rooms to keep up with the endless stream of the next generation of chavs who refuse to look for work).
Disability allowance as a result of the mental scarring from murdering somebody (apparently being in a wheelchair from an honest accident or illness does not qualify you for this, it must be a non visible, non testable, non existent disability that doesn't imping on you going to the doll office to pick up your cheque, the bookies, the fag shop or the pub).
You will also be able to claim travel expenses for any of your family travelling from your homeland to see you in your time of need (they too will be eligible for several of the above "benefits". However in order to claim their expenses they must be from a country that has no official paperwork system, and if they can prove they are related they will unfortunately have to wait longer for this claim to be settled, don't despair though their accommodation will be paid pending the claim (I hear the Savoy is nice this time of year).
I hope this helps, follow these instructions to the letter then you, your family and any descendants will never want for anything again.
I know it doesn't help but it's not personal against you, you're just one of the unfortunate millions that spend their time working and paying tax only to find that when you need a hand there isn't any help left because the pikeys have sucked the system dry.
I heard the other day that the tories want to smash up the "human rights act", that could free up billions of pounds so maybe us normal people can have a helping hand for the short period we need it.
You'll get a slap on the wrist, worst case 6 weeks community service and 3 points on your license, at which point you will be allowed to claim for:
Unemployment benefit (not jobseekers because the terms dictate that if you're motivated and want work then you're not eligible and you can starve on the street)
Housing benefit (under the strict agreement that you pop out an extra kid every year and they can 'upgrade' your house for free to give you enough rooms to keep up with the endless stream of the next generation of chavs who refuse to look for work).
Disability allowance as a result of the mental scarring from murdering somebody (apparently being in a wheelchair from an honest accident or illness does not qualify you for this, it must be a non visible, non testable, non existent disability that doesn't imping on you going to the doll office to pick up your cheque, the bookies, the fag shop or the pub).
You will also be able to claim travel expenses for any of your family travelling from your homeland to see you in your time of need (they too will be eligible for several of the above "benefits". However in order to claim their expenses they must be from a country that has no official paperwork system, and if they can prove they are related they will unfortunately have to wait longer for this claim to be settled, don't despair though their accommodation will be paid pending the claim (I hear the Savoy is nice this time of year).
I hope this helps, follow these instructions to the letter then you, your family and any descendants will never want for anything again.
I know it doesn't help but it's not personal against you, you're just one of the unfortunate millions that spend their time working and paying tax only to find that when you need a hand there isn't any help left because the pikeys have sucked the system dry.
I heard the other day that the tories want to smash up the "human rights act", that could free up billions of pounds so maybe us normal people can have a helping hand for the short period we need it.
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa
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flatlander
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Well I've had the interview nice chap only kept me waiting 30 minutes but was very pleasant I now have to do 43 actions a week which must be demonstrated strictly as agreed or the benefit I am not eligible for will be suspended?!
I did work out whilst I was waiting that if I stay off work and have theo at home I will "save" the nearly 1000£ a month nursery fees and the petrol getting to work. This is the equivalent to about 21k per year before tax !!
I could also then get the wife to drop her hours and get the interest on the mortgage paid as well as other benefits. So I would be better off not working as I could spend the time taking advantage of the cut price leisure access offered by the local council amongst other things such as the free playgrouos dental health etc
As an aside I once had an emergency dental issue and went to the dental hospital where I was working and was told it was only for people who could not register for a dentist in the UK ... I looked blankly as it was then explained ... Foreigners
And there's loads more examples like that
Big Issue anyone?
I did work out whilst I was waiting that if I stay off work and have theo at home I will "save" the nearly 1000£ a month nursery fees and the petrol getting to work. This is the equivalent to about 21k per year before tax !!
I could also then get the wife to drop her hours and get the interest on the mortgage paid as well as other benefits. So I would be better off not working as I could spend the time taking advantage of the cut price leisure access offered by the local council amongst other things such as the free playgrouos dental health etc
As an aside I once had an emergency dental issue and went to the dental hospital where I was working and was told it was only for people who could not register for a dentist in the UK ... I looked blankly as it was then explained ... Foreigners
And there's loads more examples like that
Big Issue anyone?
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
This is the problem with politics and government in the UK. Politicians seem to think that all they have to do is to pass a law and a problem is solved - like with using a mobile in a car. Whats needed is that they stop passing laws altogether and simply spend a few years making the existing systems work.
Nothing works at all well does it? From potholes in the roads to the infrastructure to the MoD and the BBC, nothing in the UK works with any level of competence and efficiency. And dont even get me started on the concept of thrift in public service.
Take the NHS for example. The bill for every family every year is £5800. And most years thats for one or two visits to the GP. Yet all the NHS can manage as a budget for food for sick people is , I believe, £2.50 per day. Bet the doctors meals cost a bit more!
So my vote is for shutting parliament for a couple of years. No more laws. Just simple basic admin work.
Nothing works at all well does it? From potholes in the roads to the infrastructure to the MoD and the BBC, nothing in the UK works with any level of competence and efficiency. And dont even get me started on the concept of thrift in public service.
Take the NHS for example. The bill for every family every year is £5800. And most years thats for one or two visits to the GP. Yet all the NHS can manage as a budget for food for sick people is , I believe, £2.50 per day. Bet the doctors meals cost a bit more!
So my vote is for shutting parliament for a couple of years. No more laws. Just simple basic admin work.
If you stay at home to look after Theo does that not make you some kind of full time carer? Surely they must pay for that??
I don't know a single person who has worked hard and gets help when they need it. The village I used to live in was full of chav twats who refused to work and just popping out half a dozen kids each so they could spend all day living off my money to pay for their 42" tv in their free 5 bedroom house (which were treated like crap).
I don't know a single person who has worked hard and gets help when they need it. The village I used to live in was full of chav twats who refused to work and just popping out half a dozen kids each so they could spend all day living off my money to pay for their 42" tv in their free 5 bedroom house (which were treated like crap).
Pass me a hammer, a spanner and a cuppa
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flatlander
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I was watching a programme a while back called skint, I didn't realise it was a documentary at first thought it was a follow up to shameless and a 21 year old girl on there was on the equivalent of over 40k a year and moaning!
Still at least the council have now written to me to tell me I need to pay the full years council tax of nearly 2 k as I was late paying this month and no I don't get a rebate for being unemployed as the wife works and earns over the threshold
If I was PM first thing I would do is get rid of councils just have a pot of money that the local team can bid for on a 5 year plan and if they came in under budget they automatically got at least what the bid for previously plus what they saved
Still at least the council have now written to me to tell me I need to pay the full years council tax of nearly 2 k as I was late paying this month and no I don't get a rebate for being unemployed as the wife works and earns over the threshold
If I was PM first thing I would do is get rid of councils just have a pot of money that the local team can bid for on a 5 year plan and if they came in under budget they automatically got at least what the bid for previously plus what they saved
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
If I was PM I'd bring in the.... you can only get a out of the NI pot a maximum of what you have paid in tax, no tax history, no money!!
Plus I would also put in a ruling that if you want your "free" money, then you start working for the council 3 days a week picking up litter, emptying bins or other tasks that there is no excuse for not doing. Anyone who has had a job and fallen on hard times would gladly accept that offer until they got on their feet. It's just the chavs that would think it's unfair.
Plus I would also put in a ruling that if you want your "free" money, then you start working for the council 3 days a week picking up litter, emptying bins or other tasks that there is no excuse for not doing. Anyone who has had a job and fallen on hard times would gladly accept that offer until they got on their feet. It's just the chavs that would think it's unfair.
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