Quick question time again... Regarding front caliper

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Quick question time again... Regarding front caliper

#1 Post by Cathcart » Wed May 22, 2013 8:08 am

Morning, on my falco's front caliper the bolts that hold both halves together are a bit corroded looking. Spoke to griff and aprilia don't supply them. Theres a guy on ebay selling them for the rsv of most years so do the rsv andfalco share the same caliper at any point?
What my search I think they share caliper from the 2000 rsv only. I did search but the closest I came to an answer was

https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... aliper+rsv

Or even if the bolts are the same then I'm happy...or another source?
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Re: Quick question time again... Regarding front caliper

#2 Post by blinkey501 » Wed May 22, 2013 8:34 am

Cathcart wrote:Morning, on my falco's front caliper the bolts that hold both halves together are a bit corroded looking. Spoke to griff and aprilia don't supply them. Theres a guy on ebay selling them for the rsv of most years so do the rsv andfalco share the same caliper at any point?
What my search I think they share caliper from the 2000 rsv only. I did search but the closest I came to an answer was

https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... aliper+rsv

Or even if the bolts are the same then I'm happy...or another source?
The calipers are the same on the Falco. Futura and the gen 1 mille. :smt002 Not sure about the gen 1 rsvr though
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Re: Quick question time again... Regarding front caliper

#3 Post by Cathcart » Wed May 22, 2013 8:52 am

blinkey501 wrote:
Cathcart wrote:Morning, on my falco's front caliper the bolts that hold both halves together are a bit corroded looking. Spoke to griff and aprilia don't supply them. Theres a guy on ebay selling them for the rsv of most years so do the rsv andfalco share the same caliper at any point?
What my search I think they share caliper from the 2000 rsv only. I did search but the closest I came to an answer was

https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... aliper+rsv

Or even if the bolts are the same then I'm happy...or another source?
The calipers are the same on the Falco. Futura and the gen 1 mille. :smt002
And I thank that man!!! Cheers! :smt023
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#4 Post by Cathcart » Wed May 22, 2013 8:59 am

This is what I'm looking at
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 0639948207

But I'd message him and get a price just for the pinch bolts.
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#5 Post by blinkey501 » Wed May 22, 2013 10:36 am

Cathcart wrote:This is what I'm looking at
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 0639948207

But I'd message him and get a price just for the pinch bolts.
I am not sure if you know this dude. When you fit these make sure you use copper grease on the threads.
If you don't you could strip the threads when removing the bolts in the future. :smt018
On another note. If you get the bolts out and take them to a bolt stock holder they might be cheaper when matching them up.
I use http://www.bapp.co.uk/ for my bolts. When dealing in cash they are good at accommodating your requirements. :smt003
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#6 Post by mangocrazy » Wed May 22, 2013 7:30 pm

The bolts (allen cap head screws to be precise) are standard high tensile M8 x 30 or M8 x 40, as I recall. I had to replace some on a set of Goldline calipers and got the zinc passivated yellow ones to match the calipers and the OE bolts, but I would imagine A4-80 stainless steel would do just as well and be more corrosion resistant.

As Blinkey says, use a dab of Copaslip on assembly, but also be careful removing the old bolts - they are in proper tight. Make sure the calipers are held properly secure (either in a vice or on the forks) and use a really well fitting allen key to remove them. An allen key in a socket on a ratchet or tommy-bar is probably the best bet.

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#7 Post by gazzo » Wed May 22, 2013 8:57 pm

Would you ever use thread lock (blue) to hold the calipers onto the forks.
I'm asking this because just had some new tyres fitted and put the calipers back on with some thread lock. :smt017

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#8 Post by Cathcart » Wed May 22, 2013 9:13 pm

Thanks very much folks! Seriously, I have a look at that site and see what I can find.
I promise to copperslip / coppaslip the bolts. I seem to use it quite a lot.
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#9 Post by mangocrazy » Wed May 22, 2013 9:22 pm

gazzo wrote:Would you ever use thread lock (blue) to hold the calipers onto the forks.
I'm asking this because just had some new tyres fitted and put the calipers back on with some thread lock. :smt017
Only if the workshop manual said so; and there are any number of threads (pardon the pun) telling you how to download that... Using it isn't a no-no, but can make removal a bit of a twat. I really wouldn't use the 'permanent' grade though, on anything. That stuff needs serious heat to make it release its grip.

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#10 Post by fatboy » Thu May 23, 2013 6:37 pm

Pro bolt reccomend using locking comound with stainless into aluminium.
Thread lock will be sufficient, bearing and sleeve adhesive maybe OTT.
Thread lock will keep the thread clean and should easily seperate with a sharp knock on hex key.
Dont overtighten, hand tight plus one eigtht of a turn
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#11 Post by D-Rider » Thu May 23, 2013 8:13 pm

fatboy wrote:Pro bolt reccomend using locking comound with stainless into aluminium.
Thread lock will be sufficient, bearing and sleeve adhesive maybe OTT.
Thread lock will keep the thread clean and should easily seperate with a sharp knock on hex key.
Dont overtighten, hand tight plus one eigtht of a turn
Yes I tend to use threadlock increasingly on the Falco as it will not only help things to stop unscrewing themselves but also protect the threads.
I do use copper grease but not on anything that would be critical if it came undone.
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#12 Post by Dalemac » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:16 pm

Does anyone know the correct torque for these pinch bolts? Splitting my calipers today to replace the seals, gonna get some of these bolts but can't find anything about torque for the pinch bolts...

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#13 Post by mangocrazy » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:49 pm

I'd use the generic torque value for an M8 bolt. The manual list values for all commonly used bolt sizes.

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