online tax disc problems

[fatboy]

I've tried to tax the falco so I can ride it back from Griff's on monday but DVLA cant find my details, the problem is with the SORN ref number, the current SORN expired July 2012.
I did read somewhere that instead of renewing a SORN annually, it would remain in force untill re taxed.
I certainly have not a reminder for both my bikes,both expired July 12.
As far as Im aware, falco passed mot late friday pm,maybe too late to register the valid mot ?
Only the V11 ref number was highlighted by DVLA....

[blinkey501]

Can't you take your registration document, test certificate, and mot certificate to a local post office and do the motorcycle road tax from there. Thats what i do when i test the bike.

[BikerGran]

It takes 24 hours for the tax to get online.

[D-Rider]

I did read somewhere that instead of renewing a SORN annually, it would remain in force untill re taxed.

No - not true. SORN has to be renewed annually (unless you tax it) - and to tax it you must have an MOT (unless under 3 yrs old - bike not owner ....) and be insured. If not insured (eg if insurance runs out) you must SORN it immediately or you will be flogged and put in irons.

A right old load of pointless paperwork and something that makes it very difficult if you are buying a new bike before you sell your old one.

..... which brings me on to another piece of SORN stupidity ..... if you buy (or take ownership) of a bike that is SORNed, you might reasonably think that it remains SORNed until the anniversary of the date the previous owner SORNed it (just like if they had taxed it, it would remain taxed until the tax ran out a year after they had taxed it).
Well no, not a bit of it. if you take ownership of a vehicle that is SORNed, you as the new owner have to immediately SORN it again or you will be held in solitary confinement, whipped, beaten, fed on mouldy bread and water and put in irons.

*Note - I may have got the punishments slightly wrong - they might possibly be a little more stiff-fine-related than those suggested

[blinkey501]

I did read somewhere that instead of renewing a SORN annually, it would remain in force untill re taxed.

if you take ownership of a vehicle that is SORNed, you as the new owner have to immediately SORN it again

Yes i fell into the "SORN" trap a few years ago when i bought a cavelier for banger racing. Got a 30 quid fine.

[slickliner6]

Why go to all hassle and potential pitfalls of sorning the bike when tax is only £40 for 6 months.
Just my opinion of course but I think if its taxed and its a nice day then the £40 is small price to pay for a day full of smiles.

[fatboy]

The bike has been Sorned since 2010 when dvla revoked my license,when I did get license back after 18 months bike needed a lot of replacement parts and had electrical woes so I got it couriered up to griff.
I didnt have any option but to sorn it
Now I guess I have two fines to look forward to as I never recieved reminders for the Falco or Armstrong
A mate had similar problems taxing something, he found out the sorn ref number has been changed from 12 to 11 digits

[D-Rider]

Why go to all hassle and potential pitfalls of sorning the bike when tax is only £40 for 6 months.
Just my opinion of course but I think if its taxed and its a nice day then the £40 is small price to pay for a day full of smiles.

Answering this question in general (not for a specific situation), Because
A) it may not be roadworthy as you are restoring it and so it has no MOT
B) it may not be insured as you don't plan to use it for a while .... and insurance will probably cost somewhat more to the road tax

[slickliner6]

Why go to all hassle and potential pitfalls of sorning the bike when tax is only £40 for 6 months.
Just my opinion of course but I think if its taxed and its a nice day then the £40 is small price to pay for a day full of smiles.

Answering this question in general (not for a specific situation), Because
A) it may not be roadworthy as you are restoring it and so it has no MOT
B) it may not be insured as you don't plan to use it for a while .... and insurance will probably cost somewhat more to the road tax

Even if its sorned don't you still need insurance ??

[Aladinsaneuk]

erm

all vehicles, even those on a SORN, now require insurance....

[D-Rider]

I don't believe SORNed ones do.

[Aladinsaneuk]

ah - yep - correct atm though i think it is on the way....

[D-Rider]

[slickliner6]

Ooohhhh I stand corrected in my orthopaedic shoes

[mangocrazy]

I don't really see how insurance for vehicles that are kept off-road and SORNed could actually be enforced. It's only when a vehicle is used on the King's/Queen's Highway that insurance is mandatory. It may be a good idea, especially if the vehicle is of value, but I don't see how it could ever be made mandatory.