Microsoft Office 2010

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MartDude · #1 Post by **MartDude** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:33 am

I've just applied for a job (managing a nearby National Trust house), which will necessitate getting my IT skills up to date. Am I correct in assuming Office 2010 is the norm these days.

I've never used a spreadsheet in my life; I've got the impression Excel is the most commonly used - is that correct? I'd thought of getting 'Excel 2010 for dummies' - any other recommendations?

If I buy* Office 2010 (got 2007 at the moment), do I have to uninstall Office 2007, or will installing 2010 do that automatically?

*Any other way of getting it?

flatlander · #2 Post by **flatlander** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:10 pm

The norm is a mixture of office 2003 / 2007 / 2010

Excel is the one yes

And to can have both installed but it is not recommended and not supported. If you just want excel 2010 that can also be installed separately. Best to uninstall one before installing the other if you just want one

D-Rider · #3 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:43 pm

Office 2007 and 2010 are reasonably similar - moving from 2007 to 2010 is not the alien world you enter when upgrading to these from previous versions.

If (like me) you've never really taken to the "ribbon" menu thingy, then install ubitmenu and that gives you an extra tab that gives you back (nearly) all the old familiar menus of the older versions.

http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Excel is a mixture of brilliance and frustration but overall it's a really good tool. I guess that at work the "office" (not necessarily MS Office) tools I use most are Excel, Powerpoint, email client and web-browser (in no particular order).
If you've never used spreadsheets then you probably have little understanding of the many things they can do for you or how you go about using them.
A book will be useful but if you can get some from somewhere, some training would be really helpful as it will not only show you how to do things but will open your eyes to what can be done.

Gio · #4 Post by **Gio** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:36 pm

There's plenty of freebie copies of 2010 out there

Aladinsaneuk · #5 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Your daughter is a student - so get her to buy the student and teacher edition.... BUT be aware of what will run on windows xp - I think office 2007 may be the best you can get

Use the library for books :)

Excel is a good tool - it's formulas are pretty much the same no matter which version - later versions do more

Outlook is, to my mind, the best thing in office... Especially as you have a shiny phone....

Oh try OpenOffice - it's free and is very similar

MartDude · #6 Post by **MartDude** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:21 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote: BUT be aware of what will run on windows xp - I think office 2007 may be the best you can get

Got Vista. Might try replacing it with 7

Aladinsaneuk · #7 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:56 pm

7 is better but ..... Check if it will run ok

flatlander · #8 Post by **flatlander** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:29 pm

From what I remember of marts setup it should be ok. I may be able to acquire a copy of some training for you but you will need to remind me this week Mondays are usually ok

D-Rider · #9 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:08 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Your daughter is a student - so get her to buy the student and teacher edition....

Out of date with MS editions Pete - it's now "Home & Student" so Mart can buy it himself.

Aladinsaneuk · #10 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:08 am

I think that most uni s have a discount program in place

Aladinsaneuk · #11 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:15 am

Actually http://www.software4students.co.uk/prod ... rsity-2010

I know which I would buy..... But it is students only that can buy and iirc prove it with their academic number

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:22 am

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Actually http://www.software4students.co.uk/prod ... rsity-2010

I know which I would buy..... But it is students only that can buy and iirc prove it with their academic number

Yes - that's a new one they've introduced at the same time they brought in the Home and Student edition - I guess they sort of split one licensing arrangement for 2.

Personally I'd go for the Home and Student edition as it lets you install on 3 pcs (but you give up Access-which few need to use, Publisher-which is shite and Outlook-which is overblown for home use - Outlook Express or webmail being the better options).
Student edition allows 2 installations but to be used by only one user on up to 2 pcs.

..... so it really depends on your circumstances.

Comparison Here: http://www.software4students.co.uk/micr ... ison-chart (yes, I use software4students too)

One more thing - MS Orifice 2013 is to be released soon - if you buy now, make sure you buy one that allows a free upgrade (you can choose whether or not you install it but you might as well have it)

Aladinsaneuk · #13 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:03 am

agreed andy

BUT

as mart has recently updated his mobile, to something that supports a fair few things that are new too him, i reckon outlook is worthwhile for him

Agree about access - but publisher is a useful tool for many - would i buy it on its own - no, would i use it as a part of a bundle - yes

I was able to acquire the full pro version of office 2007 - via the NHS - i don't use it but do keep it on my system just in case

oh, if you do start to use outlook, set up http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/ as well - it should make the phone integrate with the pc easily and allow contacts etc to update and change as needed

i do realise that it may be overkill for many, but i think it is worth it

(I do not know how it works btw - some of us have icloud and that is very easy too use!)

D-Rider · #14 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:15 pm

Lol Publisher - pile of junk - far better dtp software out there

Aladinsaneuk · #15 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:20 pm

Oh lord yes

But it is amateur standard - and I think our preferred software would scare many