How much is a sorted Falco worth?

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mickt1964 · #1 Post by **mickt1964** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:55 pm

Some other listers may find this strange, since I have just done a fair few upgrades recently.

I don't like selling things especially bikes and its a decision I am still wrestling with.

Last 3-4 years my riding has become less and less and I have got more into restoring older bikes (I also have an LC and RS250)

Been out on the Falco for a quick blast this afternoon to check everything was OK after recent upgrades and it is, but I have doubts that Falco is for me anymore. I have only done 70 miles on the bike since 2010.
As we all know a cracking bike, I have been riding for 30 years and my interest are increasing towards older bikes. I don’t commute or tour and if I wanted a fun couple of hours I would more likely take one of the two-strokes.

So what would a Falco in the follow spec be worth, sold as is.

2005 registered
Only 1 previous owner, I have owned since 2007
8590 miles only
Years MOT
Metallic Grey and Burgundy with Black Frame
Full Service inc valve clearance check by Griff in 2010, bike been in garage since
Griff also did the derestriction, the bike also has a Power Commander fitted, but disconnected also by Griff. Bike does run and fuel great.

Oil and filter change just done

Front forks serviced, re-valved and set-up by Reactive Suspension
RSV Ohlins Shock, serviced, resprung and set-up by MCT suspension

New Blackshadow Wavy Disks (also set of PFM cast iron disks)
New Performance Friction Brake Pads that will work with steel and iron disks
HEL Stainless Brake Lines with black covering, stainless banjos and bleed nips

RSV Oz Wheels, New Bearings throughout and Powder Coated by Triple S (Metallic Black)
New Pirelli Super Corsa Tyres

RSV Swingarm - beed blasted and professionally polished, with new bearings
New Aprilia hugger

Akrapovic Carbon Twin Silencers (also standard exhausts)
New Evolution air box kit from Griff

Skidmarx Belly Pan, painted to match the metallic grey of the bike.

Renthal Sprokets with 15 front
New Tsubaki Gold Chain

New higher rated Battery
Evo tail tidy, number plate holder
New Titax adjustable levers
New Oberon Brake Reservoir Lid
Oberon Clutch Slave
Stainless allen head bolts throughout.

Mint and clean as a clean thing...
I think that’s everything.

If I was keeping it then a single can conversion is next on the list, then a Gabro chip.

Falconihlist · #2 Post by **Falconihlist** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:04 pm

Preserve the engine for future use and then mount it on the living room wall

flatlander · #3 Post by **flatlander** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:45 pm

Mch as ot goes against my scavenging nature when these things are mentioned I'd keep it. It will become a classic of the kind you are trying to restore.

A bronze 03 20k with mods just struggled to make 1650 on fleabay. With a standard brushed tar 00 making only 1260 so hard to say really. I think at the moment more than ever you just have to be lucky finding the buyer or accepting a lower than hoped for price which is why so many get returned to standard. Bits sold then carcass tossed to the wolves

I think you also see it more with older Mille specials as you can find 05 onwards ( new headlight shape- gen 2?) models including RSV R for less than 4 k and down to 3 k without too much trouble.

I think it is a combination of things and not just Aprilia but two shit summers EU law requiring 3 survivors of the titanic and 14 character witnesses as well as the installation of fun removal equipment making things a lot harder to get started on bikes then "the crisis"

May be a good year for the roses but a shit one for selling bikes

That said if its cheap I'd be interested

blinkey501 · #4 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:59 pm

If i am right i think i saw your bike on ebay this week a grey bike?
I have seen two falco's go this week... A black 20,000 miler and believe it or not it made £1260
Then a late bronze one for £1650
I am afraid that people don't like modified bikes when buying with the exception of a few..
We know what you have done to the bike and there is a lot of nice modifications and it will appeal to most on here, to those who don't know what a falco is about they won't apreciate what you have done, they just want to ride the bike
My recomendation is to take all the bling off the bike and return it to has near has damn it standard and sell all your bits seperate that way you will get of your money back then list the bike on ebay again...
Sorry if this is a little harsh but it is reality.

Oh yes there are plenty of vultures on here and i am almost certain you will get loads of pm's if you decide to sell the bits.

Finally i saw what you had the bike up for on ebay and it was worth every penny

But has i say you will have to be lucky to find the right person

mickt1964 · #5 Post by **mickt1964** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:31 pm

Hi Blinkey

Not my bike on ebay - see earlier in the post, mine is burgundy and grey and only done 8600 miles
Mick

blinkey501 · #6 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:10 pm

oh well, still the same applies with your mods

#7 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:36 pm

I think it's dependant on the audience.

If you're selling a well known bike and people have seen the work catalogued and have watched the progression, or it's history is easily searchable, then the bike can be sold at a decent price above market value for a standard one. I think it's getting it out there and noticed that matters.

Ebay, for want of a medium to use as an example, is littered with bikes, good, bad, ugly with nothing that truly makes them stand out from each other bar about 2 lines of text. If people used the resources that are freely offered to one and all *cough* aprilia gallery *cough* then this can be included in the sales patter with lots of references, a searchable history and a 'fan club' to back it up

Your list is great, lots of juicy stuff we all know about and understand.. but to someone outside of this place it's lost on them, whereas if they saw a thread with before during and after pics, it sort of validates the add ons, shows the passion, workmanship etc off.

So what's it worth as is? Take what you paid for it, add about 250 quid.. but thats with decent sales patter.
If you had some kind of gallery history thread on it, you could command more as you can drag the potential buyer in, get them involved with whats gone on with the bike, get them enthused and fired up and chances are they'll understand why you want top whack and then pay it as they understand what exactly theyre getting..

As others have said though, it can be more profitable to return the bike to standard(ish) and sell a few of the choice bits separately to recoup the money youve spent..

It's a buyer's market at the moment. I knocked 200 off the price of my RSV when i bought it just by sucking thru my teeth.

D-Rider · #8 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:21 pm

I thought we were chasing round getting the relevant contacts organised so you could procure a modded exhaust mid-section

As for what it's worth - not as much as it should be by any stretch of the imagination.

The goodies on it will make very little difference. With the cans, wheels and shock (at least), you'd be better swapping back to standard and flogging the nice parts separately.

flatlander · #9 Post by **flatlander** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:47 pm

and as if to underline the point heres my list judt ion case LOL

would definitely like
New Titax adjustable levers
New Blackshadow Wavy Disks (also set of PFM cast iron disks)

would definitely like but couldn't afford
RSV Oz Wheels, New Bearings throughout and Powder Coated by Triple S (Metallic Black)

wouldnt mind
Evo tail tidy, number plate holder
Oberon Clutch Slave

not sure but wouldnt mind as an option
RSV Swingarm - beed blasted and professionally polished, with new bearings

Aladinsaneuk · #10 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:06 pm

nice list

agree with others - you will not sell it for what it is worth

would you get back what you paid for it over time - YES

is that worth it - probably not....

flatlander · #11 Post by **flatlander** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:10 pm

SHIT just reread my list and realise I now HAVE

to spend yet more money

Cathcart · #12 Post by **Cathcart** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:36 am

Rarer bikes have a lesser audience and as previously stated, most folk that buy bikes prefer little mods if any. Unfortunately you fall into both. I'd then agree with others, sell a more "standardish" falco and make the cash up on selling the parts. Im sure alot could be sold on here.

fatboy · #13 Post by **fatboy** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:50 pm

Agree with Cathcart, the parts would sell, the vultures circling.......

slickliner6 · #14 Post by **slickliner6** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:24 pm

Here comes vulture #1.

Could be interested in the belly pan(IF you're gonna sell the parts)(we'll,,,, gotta be quick nowadays)pmsl

Del

Damn I'm shameless lol

flatlander · #15 Post by **flatlander** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:01 pm

flatlander wrote:and as if to underline the point heres my list judt ion case LOL

would definitely like
New Titax adjustable levers
New Blackshadow Wavy Disks (also set of PFM cast iron disks)

would definitely like but couldn't afford
RSV Oz Wheels, New Bearings throughout and Powder Coated by Triple S (Metallic Black)

wouldnt mind
Evo tail tidy, number plate holder
Oberon Clutch Slave

not sure but wouldnt mind as an option
RSV Swingarm - beed blasted and professionally polished, with new bearings

Not 1st and Pete will have already pm ed and phoned.