Petrol Stations

[philgro64]

Been riding with a flip up helmet for over 2 years and have never had any problems up until today. Pulled up to the pump of a Shell garage, flipped up my helmet and whilst sitting astride bike, as I always do, waited for attendant to activate the pump. She motioned to me to remove my helmet which I refused to do as my face was fully visible. She refused to activate the pump so i drove off down the road to the next station where I fuelled with no issues. Anyone else encounter this? Ive got to say seriously thinking about fuelling any where else other than Shell garages after this.

On another note just had Conti Motions fitted to the bike and so far I'm very impressed with them. Seem to have plenty grip wet and dry and prefer them to the Pirellis I had on previously.

Also delighted with the Motad Venom slip ons I've fitted. Seems to have eradicated the lumpy slow speed fuelling I was getting with the stock cans.

[D-Rider]

Stiff letter of complaint to Shell.
Don't they know we have to wear these hats by law?

[blinkey501]

Anyone else encounter this?.

Yes, thorne near doncaster...A well known super market shain
I did the same has you and rode down the road and filled up.....
There loss

[slickliner6]

Oh god,don't get me started on this gggrrrrrrr.
Tescos at Hunstanton is a nightmare for it.
I purposely put a Balaclava under my helmet once and rode in and was asked to remove my helmet,which I did and the woman's face was a picture.
Their reasons for asking to remove helmets are
Fumes might get into the helmet.
So the camera can see your face.
Other customers might be frightened or concerned.

My reply was.
Do you ask other people to get out of their cars for the fumes?
Do you ask muslim women to remove yashmacks?(and no it's nothing to do with their religion).
Gggggrrr it really grips my shit ggggrrrrr

[flatlander]

I actually tell them that my religion forbids me to have my head uncovered in public or I just see my arse and tell them they're cocks

[D-Rider]

My son had it at the local Asda - their reason given to him was they had to be sure he was over 16 !!!
So a subjective assessment of what he looks like is likely to be more accurate than the clue given by the fact he had turned up on a machine that you need to be at least 17 to ride ..... Numpties .....

..... and had he gone to the Pay At Pump he would have just dispensed the fuel anyway .........

Power-crazed nazis

[Gio]

Personally I don't care if they want you to remove your helmet, the police do as well if they pull you over.

Also you go into a bank with a helmet on and the police will be called.

Why have a hissy just cos you're lazy!

[D-Rider]

But why should you have to? There is absolutely no good reason for it.

What's more, what do you do with it? is it safe to rest it on the pump to be knocked on the floor by the person on the other side of it - where half the pumps have a film of diesel on them .... or do you put it on the diesel-soaked floor.

No, you keep it on - far less risk.

[Gio]

The diesel garages round here don't have fuel all over them. I don't agree about not removing your helmet, also its nice to give your bonce an airing.

[slickliner6]

Personally I don't care if they want you to remove your helmet, the police do as well if they pull you over.

Also you go into a bank with a helmet on and the police will be called.

Why have a hissy just cos you're lazy!

I personally find it discriminative towards motorcyclists/bikers. If you don't mind being ordered to do something that really isnt necessary then that's fine.
But for me I think it stinks. And the real reason is that they treat motorcyclists
Like thiefs and think you're gonna do a runner without paying. Even though you're standing In The queue with a £20 note in your hand. Wankers.

[anzacinexile]

Personally I don't care if they want you to remove your helmet, the police do as well if they pull you over.

Also you go into a bank with a helmet on and the police will be called.

Why have a hissy just cos you're lazy!

I personally find it discriminative towards motorcyclists/bikers. If you don't mind being ordered to do something that really isnt necessary then that's fine.
But for me I think it stinks. And the real reason is that they treat motorcyclists
Like thiefs and think you're gonna do a runner without paying. Even though you're standing In The queue with a £20 note in your hand. Wankers.

Better than that, I was told to take off my helmet while waiting for a pay at the pump.

ME : Why
Numpty: So the camera can see your face
ME: Why
Numpty: In case you ride of without paying

Everyone around except Numpty biting the tarmac with laughter with Numpty looking around confused

[Falcopops]

Over here, you won't get the pumps turned on unless you take your helmet off and get off the bike. Not allowed to fill up while still sitting on the bike.

Back in the uk I had a fairly staunch confrontation with a security guard in M&S when I refused to take my flip front off. He reckoned the security cameras couldn't see my face. It was pissing with rain and I was just running in to grab soemthing from my GF the running out again, so wasn't taking it off no matter what. We had a very entertaining game of chase me chase me untill I found said GF got the thing and left. Outside the store it got quite interesting when the plastic nazi grabbed me by the shoulder and sopu me round, at which point he must have been tired as he had a little lie down, although it might have been something to do with him bumping his face on my carbon knuckled gloves.

Result was police called round to my place a few days later, they got the rego of my bike from other cameras. I asked how they could prove it was me, apparently the M&S cameras could see my face quite clearly with the flip front up. I calimed self defence and got off with a warning. Needless to say I started shopping extensively at M&S without taking my flip front off until I was told explicitly to stop by a mate who was a local PC as M&S were escalating the whole issue and the outlook was bleak for me, cheers Robbie, I still owe him a beer for that.

[fatboy]

I dont think its unreasonable to be expected to remove your lid if going inside to pay,as you would be asked to remove your lid when entering anywhere that handles cash.
Lifting a flip front is as good as removing lid .
Pay at pump, fair enough you have to get off the bike ( fire regs ), I would refuse to take my lid off, they have already recorded your reg, have card details so I would say

[wayno]

There's no law stating you have to remove your helmet. If they've dispensed the fuel with your lid on and then aksed you to remove it inside the shop then you are legally entitled to leave your name and address with the attendant and walk off without paying if they won't accept your money (you will of course be legally oblidged to pay afterwards).

If they have dispensed the fuel and you've made a reasonable effort to pay, then left contact details of where they can obtain payment you are not breaking the law. It's only an offence if you leave without first trying to pay, and then without leaving contact details.

Personally I don't mind if someone doesn't turn the pump on and points to my lid. I know that they don't know me from adam and I could have stolen the bike, then be planning to ride off. If they have dispensed the fuel then I never remove my lid when I go to pay (unless there's a massive queue or it's really hot) as it's just too much hassle to hold it all while I pay.

All pumps should be pay at pump anyway, so much simpler.

[Kwackerz]

With the increase in the use of ethanol, methanol and stuff in petrol nowadays, I would say from my own view (im closer to the filler than many) that removing your helmet IS a bloody good idea, especially on a hot day. Those fumes have ever increasingly gotten worse over the years. 20 years ago it used to be a nice petrol smell, nowadays it's so much more of a chemical smell and the fumes do hurt your eyes and nostrils (well at my fekkin level they do!) id feel a chump becoming overcome with fumes as I left my helmet on..

Anyhow, with the doddery old fekkers and young fekkers who piss about dithering at the pumps, having to take my helmet off slows me down which means there's more chance of them moving before I want to. Car the other day I had to wait 8 minutes for the twat in front to finish spacking about and drive off.. and if id been on the bike there wasnt room to ride past them either because of the dick the other side parking about 6ft from the pump...

Angrykid? nooo....