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#46 Post by randomsquid » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:41 pm

zoidberg wrote: I persoanlly have never heard of an air shock for a bike.
My GL650 had one. Well it did after I tried adjusting the pressure with an airline and all the oil sort of fell out. Or rather came out at high pressure all over the back end. Air adjustable suspension, gotta love it.
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#47 Post by D-Rider » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:49 pm

Well it IS a gas shock but it is oil damped - the gas doesn't do the damping. I guess that's where he's confused.

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#48 Post by D-Rider » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:50 pm

randomsquid wrote:
zoidberg wrote: I persoanlly have never heard of an air shock for a bike.
My GL650 had one. Well it did after I tried adjusting the pressure with an airline and all the oil sort of fell out. Or rather came out at high pressure all over the back end. Air adjustable suspension, gotta love it.
Indeed but the air is not used for the damping. Usually it is used to contribute to the springing.
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#49 Post by zoidberg » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:51 am

Well, I still need a new shock.

The white spring Mille items fit with no alterations req'd at all?

I may just go for one of those and have it serviced to save messing about.

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#50 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:51 am

Valve may need a dremel trim....


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#51 Post by zoidberg » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:15 pm

Hmmm. So I may lose gas?

What's the pressure reqd in these things?

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#52 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:51 pm

No - do an Andy - long term users know what I mean

No loss of pressure


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#53 Post by zoidberg » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:14 pm

Hmm, i guess that a reference to a thread/post on here.

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#54 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:31 pm

Sorry and yea!

The white spring Mille shock uses the same linkages

BUT

some have had to take the dust cap off and then cut the valve down by two mm

Do not fit the dust cap

Then it's a straight fit

One service place will also fit a shorter valve ? Revs racing?


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#55 Post by fatboy » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:37 pm

If it is the white spring/black body with blue locking rings Sachs,yes you will need to trim 2/3 mm off the valve.
everything else fits !
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#56 Post by zoidberg » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:05 pm

is there a way of doing the above without losing gas?

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#57 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:56 pm

Yep

Have the dremel set to high speed


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#58 Post by zoidberg » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:18 pm

ahh, and just skim round the edges?

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#59 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:51 pm

Straight cut


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#60 Post by D-Rider » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:55 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Straight cut
Oven chips?
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