Falco indicators

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Falconihlist · #31 Post by **Falconihlist** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:42 pm

randomsquid wrote:But could you make them spell things?

I'd like OFF in the right hand lens and something else in the left one.

Now that would be awesome to see. I would prefer lasers or an EMP pulse generator to immobilise the tailgating twats.

Nooj · #32 Post by **Nooj** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Not really room in them to do that, plus it would be unreadable behind the lens.

Pictures are taken, but Photobucket has broken, so I can't post them up here.

However... they are on my Farcebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shiny-Bi ... 2339635917

Aladinsaneuk · #33 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:34 pm

i am very pleased with the outcome

These are my new rear lights - and it is something we spoke about design wise.....

Its not the only mod I am doing this spring either.....

Samray · #34 Post by **Samray** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:40 pm

Nice fettling.

paddyz1 · #35 Post by **paddyz1** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:38 pm

All good but i do remember there being a law requirement that they have to be a minimium distance apart.
I don't know if i am correct but years ago i worked at a bike shop and remember an issue about it.
I have had a search but not found anything.
Might be worth a bit of research.

Aladinsaneuk · #36 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:19 pm

as it happens i have discrete blisters on my rear cowl that means my indicators will be legal

i believe it is some thing silly like 20 cm apart btw

MartDude · #37 Post by **MartDude** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:27 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:as it happens i have discrete blisters on my rear

Who've you been grooming now?

Aladinsaneuk · #38 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:22 pm

a newer younger, more supple model mart.....

D-Rider · #39 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 pm

paddyz1 wrote:All good but i do remember there being a law requirement that they have to be a minimium distance apart.
I don't know if i am correct but years ago i worked at a bike shop and remember an issue about it.
I have had a search but not found anything.
Might be worth a bit of research.

Lighting Regs:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989 ... tents/made

Rules pertaining to indicators:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989 ... ule/7/made

Minimum separation 240mm
Not sure if that is the gap between lenses or between the LEDs within the lenses (I suspect the former). I'm guessing external indicators will be needed as well for the Pete/Nooj creation.

Minimum viewing angle 80degrees outward 20degrees inward

Also of interest:

1. No vehicle shall be fitted with a total of more than one front indicator nor more than two rear indicators, on each side.
2. Any number of side indicators may be fitted to the side (excluding the front and rear) of a vehicle.

.... and I have seen it said that a number plate light is not required .... these regulations show otherwise.

Falconihlist · #40 Post by **Falconihlist** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:12 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:i am very pleased with the outcome

These are my new rear lights - and it is something we spoke about design wise.....

You have both come up with a good idea, and I have asked Nooj to do a set without the indicators incorporated

Aladinsaneuk · #41 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:26 pm

If fitted it must work

But under schedule 15 is not required

D-Rider · #42 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:41 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:If fitted it must work

But under schedule 15 is not required

No Schedule 15 just tells you the requirements relating to obligatory rear registration plate lamps. It does not tell you whether it is or isn't required - it being required is a pre-requisite of the requirements of Schedule 15.

It is Schedule 2 that clarifies whether they are required and Table II is what clarifies which lights are required for motorcycles.
This makes it clear that the only bikes that do not require a number plate light are those that are not required to carry a number plate.
Makes sense really

Nooj · #43 Post by **Nooj** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:54 pm

D-Rider wrote:
paddyz1 wrote:All good but i do remember there being a law requirement that they have to be a minimium distance apart.
I don't know if i am correct but years ago i worked at a bike shop and remember an issue about it.
I have had a search but not found anything.
Might be worth a bit of research.
Minimum separation 240mm
Not sure if that is the gap between lenses or between the LEDs within the lenses (I suspect the former). I'm guessing external indicators will be needed as well for the Pete/Nooj creation.

Out of date, the 240mm spacing hasn't been part of the MoT for a few years now, since the last big changes that came in. As long as both indicators can be seen from the rear of the bike, are placed on either side of the vehicle and flash at a rate that's between 60 and 120Hz they should pass.

And you don't need a number plate light, mine's passed every year without one. If fitted it must work, if not fitted, no problem.

D-Rider · #44 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:02 pm

Nooj wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
paddyz1 wrote:All good but i do remember there being a law requirement that they have to be a minimium distance apart.
I don't know if i am correct but years ago i worked at a bike shop and remember an issue about it.
I have had a search but not found anything.
Might be worth a bit of research.
Minimum separation 240mm
Not sure if that is the gap between lenses or between the LEDs within the lenses (I suspect the former). I'm guessing external indicators will be needed as well for the Pete/Nooj creation.
Out of date, the 240mm spacing hasn't been part of the MoT for a few years now, since the last big changes that came in. As long as both indicators can be seen from the rear of the bike, are placed on either side of the vehicle and flash at a rate that's between 60 and 120Hz they should pass.

This is nothing to do with the MOT - these are the construction and use regulations. Just because the MOT doesn't test it, it doesn't mean that it complies with regulations.
You could pass the MOT with flying colours but still get pulled for it.

Aladinsaneuk · #45 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:30 am

well

an interesting discussion, but if porcus mobilius want to pull you, then they will - for what ever reason they want
Also, with the exception of a VOSA officer, the main thing likely to be known is the MOT regulations....

i spoke to a few mot inspectors that i know about this issue, and the consensus was that so long as it was clear which direction the was being indicated, then they would pass them
(One asked why I had bothered keeping the side blisters.... )