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#31 Post by sabestian » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:35 am

The longer I think about it, the more I like the idea of one forum covering everything related to Falco (apart from buy/sell adverts). Something of a shape of AF1 forum. It just seems more natural to me that way (it may be just me, but I don't think so when you read carefully the previous posts).

The forum is not huge enough for this idea to cause chaos. This way you can check what's new at a single glance.

Dividing everything into neat drawers is apealing idea on the other hand. A bit too artificial, perhaps. IMHO. Maybe worth trying, though?

How about a poll? It is still democracy after all...isn't it...? :smt012

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#32 Post by Gio » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:50 am

So why not have 3 techy sub forums, 1 for Falco's and 1 each for Tuono/RSV and other Aprilia's


Personally I'd prefer them all in one forum.

Then there is the "Why not do a double post" one in Tech the other in the relevant bike forum.

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#33 Post by HowardQ » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:56 am

Falcoholic wrote:ICE CREAM, POPCORN, COLD DRINKS...............

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Come on Andy, don't sit on the fence stuffin your face!
What's your view?
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#34 Post by TwinNut » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:03 pm

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#35 Post by D-Rider » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:16 pm

TwinNut wrote:
Gio wrote:Personally I'd prefer them all in one forum.
Strike......five or six is it now??
One out - all out Brother ! :smt002


Whilst not arguing either way on this, I'm not 100% sure that is what Gio was saying (but Gio better clarify that).

My first reading of the post was the same as yours but when I looked at it again it seemed to be a suggestion to make a separate Technical sub-forum for each of the various types of Aprilia ..... followed by a comment that he'd prefer a single Aprilia Technical forum.

As I say, I've read this both ways .... maybe only Gio knows what he really meant .....

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#36 Post by Falcoholic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:01 pm

HowardQ wrote:What's your view?
:smt102
Out of the window, the insurance office across the road. Fit dark haired bird, straight black shoulder length hair, nice norks and BJ lips...........................

Oops! Sorry!
erm Falco stuff (technical or otherwise) in the Falco Forum, Mille stuff in the Mille Forum, Tuono stuff in the Tuono Forum. No need for an Aprilia Technical Forum.
Posters should post, advisors should advise and moderators should get a proper job. :smt016

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#37 Post by Falcoholic » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:06 pm

And while we're on the subject, In the Aprilia Tech forum you don't always know what bike anyone is talking about because it's just assumed that you know. ie Biguns thread about his rear brake switch doesn't mention his bike. Not that it has to but.......if you were new to the site you wouldn't necessarily know what bike he was talkin about like what we do cos we know already.

Not that I know WTF I'm talking about. :smt001
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#38 Post by Gio » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:48 pm

D-Rider wrote:but when I looked at it again it seemed to be a suggestion to make a separate Technical sub-forum for each of the various types of Aprilia ..... followed by a comment that he'd prefer a single Aprilia Technical forum.
Correct :smt001

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#39 Post by D-Rider » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:36 pm

Wey Hey ... someone says I've got something right - perhaps I will be able to get a propper job !

(Which reminds me, better get on with work or I'll never get out of here tonight)

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#40 Post by Samray » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:56 pm

The fact that you never used your previous forum, with its 18 sub forums, intelligently doesn't mean that we should sack the housekeeper and allow RS to become a cliquey Falco sty. The fact that you prefered to roll around like pigs in .. erm clover? doesn't mean you should inflict it on RSs reputation.
Tis common courtesy to post in the correct forums and not lay extra work at the door of a voluntary admin who would indoubtably be able to find more worthwhile things to do, and sheer laziness not to. IMO.

http://www.apriliaridersite.com/index.p ... 5e1e4f8f57

I do like a lively thread. :smt003

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#41 Post by Fausto » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:05 pm

The bottom line (for me anyway) is that if I have a Falco related question I want multiple answers to I post it where I think it will get the most viewings.

As things stand that means I'll put it up on the Falco forum.

That's not me siding one way or the other on this debate - just me saying how I use the forum at present.

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#42 Post by Gio » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:54 pm

Fausto wrote:The bottom line (for me anyway) is that if I have a Falco related question I want multiple answers to I post it where I think it will get the most viewings.

As things stand that means I'll put it up on the Falco forum.

That's not me siding one way or the other on this debate - just me saying how I use the forum at present.
Granted :smt001

But one day you will buy a different bike and from the bike sites I've seen about most techy stuff goes into the techy forum and not like the haphazard method of RS/Aprilia Falco forum method.

Maybe thats why the Falco is a rare breed :smt005

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#43 Post by D-Rider » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:08 pm

Gio wrote: But one day you will buy a different bike
:smt018 :smt018 :smt018

Right - this debate has just crossed the line of acceptability !

Suggestion that we may, at some time in the future, follow that splitter F9 and downgrade from our Falcos!

Unthinkable!

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#44 Post by Kwackerz » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:42 pm

Was thinking about this today whilst stuck in the 8 mile traffic jam chaos on the M11.

Previously to the move there was a lot of RSV posts, etc, like I probably didnt say but that id mentioned in my head, from the days of when the RSV ruled the Aprilia RiderSite. At the time the Falco was low in numbers and certainly relied heavily on input from the tech posts of ther RSVs.

Now the tables have turned, probably due to the ever increasing RSV (and Factory) presence on other sites drawing the RSV owners away, leaving the Falconeers to claim ARS.

The RSV posts used to be in a pretty sorted order, you've all seen the old headings and the way the old RSV lot used these to good effect.

With the RSVs gone for the majority, the Falconeers, who'd been pushed into their little corner then took over, but as they'd been put into their little box, stayed in it. All the (your) posts then remained in the falco area until the move over here.

The problem we have as mods and admins is recreating the site back to how it was always intended. You lot are used to being in that box, it then has a knock on effect on the rest of Aprilia RiderSite in that we only have Falconeers here. Other users, RSV / Tuono / Them other things take one look, go oh it's all falco crap, and dont come back. That in itself is having a derogatory effect on the whole Site.

Thats how it seems.

We need (Site we, not falco forum / section of ARS) to bring the Site back up to it's former glory, properly if it's going to maintain it's place on the Net and not just known as 'The falco thing over in UK'...

The Site is not just about Falcos. It's not, regardless of what ideas you may have about Falcos being the bestest shinyest fastest most useable Aprilia on the Planet. The Site has to be able to be used by all. It isnt just a Falco forum.

In order to do that 'we' need 'us' to use the site in the best way possible to attract those other model owners back.

Right. Bit of Big Picture painting.

First of all there was the problem of the old Site going down the tube.

I spoke with Hammy and asked to take it on board and help out. We've been there done that saved the world and wrote the book. We brought ARS over to here and have sorted it out. It's safe. We dont need to go there again anyhows, we've done all the back patting and shite like that.

Secondly we needed to start revitalising the Site.

New Aprilia Mods were put in place, trusted members voted in by the Aprilia community of ARS. They were given the mission to try and bring over various tech posts and stuff from the old site, this would then help the new ARS find itself on the Net again. It is working.

They were also asked to moderate the forum by moving tech stuff, etc to the correct forums, this to a. pad the site out to provide depth to as many areas as possible (An empty site wont be visited.It looks crap.) and b. to reinstigate the method for location of threads as it was originally intended.

Hammy didnt want a site the length of a football pitch, so the various areas of Chassis, Engine, Suspension, etc were brought down into one easy to use reference area called Aprilia Technical.


Thirdly we needed members to start using it in the way intended.

I put up a few competitions, just low level trivia to get people using the search engine and various areas of the Site. The mods linked into this by the moving of 'incorrectly' placed posts and threads. Maybe we didnt stress it enough. I know our volunteer Mods are busy as are the Admins.

I guess we're about at that stage still.

With the Site in place, working and filling up it was/is onto getting it a wider audience.

Well audience is provided in many ways.

a. Internet searches I opened Ap technical up for a while to get posts 'found' by the search engines' It had a derogatory effect on RS cos all the RS user saw was Ap Tech posts. Not good for RS but we took the hit on that on your behalf. Quite frankly it almost killed RS off at a time when Both sites needed the same amount of life support maybe. Anyways, Ap Tech is now back under the cover of Aprilia Usergroup. Hopefully now, RS will take off again, as we've lessened the Aprilia bias again.

b. Word of mouth. You guys did this, and for that I am grateful. Youve drawn the guys back in and we have a 3 page usergroup for Aprilia RiderSite. Fucking good going over the space of 6 months. Congratulate yourselves.

c. Advertising This partly linked in with the competitions. I had Ap RiderSite decals done and gave them out over those competitions, Ive still got some left by the way. I can only assume they were wank as nobody has shown me one on a bike. Shit happens, we move on.
As that appeared to have flopped, Ive gone down another route. Im currently awaiting some Metal business card holders coming in, quite snazzy by all accounts. Ive only got 10 to start with, these will then be filled with ARS cards and given out in time for Summer hopefully, so that those of you who do visit various places can dish out a card for reference. Maybe that'll work!

The big picture is not for a Falco biased site (although for now it is, it happens and I accept it as that. We can only work on changing it to bring ARS back up to AF1 kicking level.. yeah I wish. :smt002 It's not impossible, it just needs dedication and commitment.)

What I need, no, wrong, what We need is for you lot to help.

Yes I know youre Falconeers and God rides a Falco and Yaboosucks to anything but a Falco, but what we need is for YOU lot to do something for the Site.

a. Find stuff about RSV's tech specs, whatever, start the odd discussion, continue it on RSVs, RS's, Tuonos, etc,etc Futuras? Hmm.. jury's out on them :smt002 :smt002 I know it's not your bag, but it's up to us lot to get amongst it and create that website. Put some posts and stuff in the other sections about those bikes. If stuff in the tech section is applicable to multiple models,or a particular model, mention it in the title or first posts. Mods, Thread starters and Admins can all edit those. It isnt a black art.

b. Post technical stuff in the tech forum. It will help raise the profile of the Site to what it should be. Bite your lips for a while and just grizz it out. Please!


I want this Site to be fucking awesome. I want to be able to say Yeah, We're from Aprilia RiderSite. and get a decent response, not 'aww..that ickle bitty falco website? Gee that's cute, man..'


And TN, if you think that lot is bullshit, you clearly dont have a clue about belonging to a website.

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#45 Post by TwinNut » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:31 pm

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