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blinkey501 · #31 Post by **blinkey501** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:27 pm

Just fitted a chain set to a falco with a 17 tooth front sprocket.

The set up that arrived is a 17/42 where the falco is a 16/41

I would imagine that when the chain set was fitted to your bike it was bough for a GEN 2 mille as this as been established with what was sent for this falco?

The owner sent off for a mille set as the bike as a mille swingarm fitted.

I would count your back sprocket because if you have a 15/42 it would be very light on the front when giving the bike the "Beans".

gramey · #32 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:25 am

Blinkey, I don't know how you found it fitting a 17 tooth front but I found it bloody tight to get off! I tried looking on the rear sprocket, without physically counting, to see where it said how many teeth it was but either it's on the inside or it's covered by the sprocket carrier?

blinkey501 · #33 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:35 am

gramey wrote:Blinkey, I don't know how you found it fitting a 17 tooth front but I found it bloody tight to get off! I tried looking on the rear sprocket, without physically counting, to see where it said how many teeth it was but either it's on the inside or it's covered by the sprocket carrier?

It was a complete new chain set so the front sprocket was quite easy to fit.

If my memory serves me, dropping down 2 teeth on the front is equivalent to six on the rear anyway, this will be a massive difference.

I think you have to mark one of the teeth on the rear and count?

gramey · #34 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:11 am

blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:Blinkey, I don't know how you found it fitting a 17 tooth front but I found it bloody tight to get off! I tried looking on the rear sprocket, without physically counting, to see where it said how many teeth it was but either it's on the inside or it's covered by the sprocket carrier?
It was a complete new chain set so the front sprocket was quite easy to fit.

If my memory serves me, dropping down 2 teeth on the front is equivalent to six on the rear anyway, this will be a massive difference.

I think you have to mark one of the teeth on the rear and count?

It's too cold to sit the garage with shoes and socks off

The rear sprocket is exactly the same as this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151530820070? ... EBIDX%3AIT - but I will get out there today and count how many teeth.

gramey · #35 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:24 pm

Okay so I did a tooth count on the rear sprocket and it's 44, cripes! May need to change that

blinkey501 · #36 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:44 pm

gramey wrote:Okay so I did a tooth count on the rear sprocket and it's 44, cripes! May need to change that

Nah it will be good round town and wheelie in second just on throttle.

Make sure you cover the back brake

gramey · #37 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:53 pm

Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.

squadron Nero · #38 Post by **squadron Nero** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:41 pm

I really like my supersprox rear, it's aluminium centre with steel outer teeth so best of both worlds.

blinkey501 · #39 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:30 pm

gramey wrote:Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.

41 would be best I think.

But you may want to look at a new chain and sprocket set as there may be a lot of wear on the chain.

Personally I use a did 525 set up

gramey · #40 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:55 pm

blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.
41 would be best I think.

But you may want to look at a new chain and sprocket set as there may be a lot of wear on the chain.

Personally I use a did 525 set up

It's definitely too revvy with the 15/44 set up. Do you need to remove the swinging arm to replace the chain?

blinkey501 · #41 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:26 pm

gramey wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.
41 would be best I think.

But you may want to look at a new chain and sprocket set as there may be a lot of wear on the chain.

Personally I use a did 525 set up
It's definitely too revvy with the 15/44 set up. Do you need to remove the swinging arm to replace the chain?

Swingarm stays I place. If chain is serviceable try a 16 tooth front?

Fitting a smaller rear could make the chain too long for adjustment, and need shortening?

If you are unsure the chain is serviceable I would ask a garage to look at it?

I would suggest getting help with a chain and sprocket swap, or paying a garage to do it as you seem a little unsure.

If the chain is not fitted correctly, and the joining link not fitted right. The chain could snap and you could get hurt or worse.

gramey · #42 Post by **gramey** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:38 pm

blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.
41 would be best I think.

But you may want to look at a new chain and sprocket set as there may be a lot of wear on the chain.

Personally I use a did 525 set up
It's definitely too revvy with the 15/44 set up. Do you need to remove the swinging arm to replace the chain?
Swingarm stays I place. If chain is serviceable try a 16 tooth front?

Fitting a smaller rear could make the chain too long for adjustment, and need shortening?

If you are unsure the chain is serviceable I would ask a garage to look at it?

I would suggest getting help with a chain and sprocket swap, or paying a garage to do it as you seem a little unsure.

If the chain is not fitted correctly, and the joining link not fitted right. The chain could snap and you could get hurt or worse.

Not a great problem doing it, I just wasn't sure if it used an endless chain but as you say it has a link then obviously I don't need to remove the swing arm.

blinkey501 · #43 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:01 pm

gramey wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
gramey wrote:Thanks Blinkey, if I find it too lively do I go for a 41 or 42 rear and if so is there any particular brand that's good regarding price and durability. I was thinking it's possibly best to avoid alloy sprockets but I'm old fart that's used to steel ones.
41 would be best I think.

But you may want to look at a new chain and sprocket set as there may be a lot of wear on the chain.

Personally I use a did 525 set up
It's definitely too revvy with the 15/44 set up. Do you need to remove the swinging arm to replace the chain?
Swingarm stays I place. If chain is serviceable try a 16 tooth front?

Fitting a smaller rear could make the chain too long for adjustment, and need shortening?

If you are unsure the chain is serviceable I would ask a garage to look at it?

I would suggest getting help with a chain and sprocket swap, or paying a garage to do it as you seem a little unsure.

If the chain is not fitted correctly, and the joining link not fitted right. The chain could snap and you could get hurt or worse.
Not a great problem doing it, I just wasn't sure if it used an endless chain but as you say it has a link then obviously I don't need to remove the swing arm.

Ok mate no worries.

#44 Post by **mangocrazy** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:18 pm

I'm using a 16/44 combo on the red Falco and it seems pretty much identical to the 15/41 on the blue Falco. If you've already got a 44T rear I'd just bung a 16T front on. If you've previously had a 17T front on, a 16T will go staright on without any chain issues.

randomsquid · #45 Post by **randomsquid** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:46 pm

blinkey501 wrote:
If the chain is not fitted correctly, and the joining link not fitted right. The chain could snap and you could get hurt or worse.

I've seen a broken chain on a V60 motor. Kid at work without much spannering experience adjusted the chain on his Tuono and didn't check all the way round for tight spots. It snapped on the motorway the day after and took a chunk of the casing by the clutch cover and ended up in the grill of the car behind.

Luckily nobody was hurt and the vehicles were bodgable.