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#31 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:22 pm

I definitely agree that it's best to put your own story and that of your witness down on paper at the earliest opportunity - and as well as recording when things happened, record the time and date you made the statement.

As for maps and pictures of the location, Google maps and street-view is your friend. Grab images and annotate them with markers and notes as to where things happened and the position of the witness etc. If necessary take photos too (especially if anything has changed) but as often as not, Google maps will be fine - far better than hand-drawn sketches.
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#32 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:50 pm

nod - fair point andy

the reason why i would still also do a hand drawn sketch is that things may have changed since those images were done/posted/hosted etc - iirc some of the google map street views are likely to be 3 or 4 years old - i think that was when norwich was last done...... and trust me, norwich city council are like the other councils and keep moving things!


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#33 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:56 pm

Which is why I said take photos etc if things have changed.

Google maps and street view was very useful when I was knocked off.
The overhead satellite view gives you an accurate plan view that is much harder to create by other methods.
I did take pictures too.
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#34 Post by wayofthedarkhand » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:09 pm

I've got all the necessary evidence. This isn't my first rodeo.

Have checked for CCTV too, but there isn't any around.

I've got photos of the offending vehicle, especially scratches and rear bumper damage. Though it's minor.

According to the witness the guy asked him "do you know who's bike this is?"

Witness: "no"

The guy then drives off.

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#35 Post by wayno » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:50 pm

wayofthedarkhand wrote:I've got photos of the offending vehicle, especially scratches and rear bumper damage. Though it's minor.
It may be minor damage but it's a big plus on your side, all these little things will add up and make it impossible for him to wriggle out of it. As far as I'm concerned I hope he gets everything he's due. Hitting a bike is one thing (accidents happen), driving off without so much as a note is absolutely disgusting behaviour.

A friend of mine is a motor insurance assessor (I know, but I do beat him once a week as punishment). He's not the one who assesses the damage to the vehicles, he's the one who goes through the file in the office with a stamp saying pay or not. If you start getting grief from the insurers or think they're trying it on drop me a PM and I'll pass it on to him and see what he says.
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#36 Post by wayofthedarkhand » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:21 am

Thankfully CN handed the claim over to BLD, who i've dealt with before and were very good.

Pre-accident value is down as £4k

Can anyone find me an documentation that shows/proves how rare Oasis Green models are, and any Falcos that might be priced around that mark?

It had 17k on the clock, mostly standard, with full service history.

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#37 Post by wayno » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:09 am

It saddens me looking at how nice that used to be.

Here's a couple of ads that may help

https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... 230e8f171e

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... true&rt=nc

http://archive.ukbike.com/aprilia-slfal ... 36597.aspx

Don't accept any stupid offers, when someone drove into my parked car the insurance company told me the bike would be valued in accordance with the glasses guide. They offered me £1100 and I told them to sod off. They offered me £1300 and I told them to sod off. I waited 2 weeks then told them if they didn't offer me £1620 which the glasses guide state I would send it to the financial ombudsman to be delat with and 25 minutes later I had an offer of £1620
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#38 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:13 pm

re the rarity of the oasis greens - I would point them to griff at aprilia performance - in his previous role of aprilia technical director, I think his knowledge would be trusted.....


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#39 Post by wayno » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:57 pm

If he still has contacts he may be able to get an actual figure for uk sales
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#40 Post by Samray » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:26 pm

wayno wrote:If he still has contacts he may be able to get an actual figure for uk sales
Unless he stumbles across RS and discovers how common they really are. :smt020
cba to find the relevent thread. :smt025
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#41 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:46 pm

actually wayno, Aprilia UK do not know the actual number - Aprilia fired just about every one around that time

It is only by detective work that we came to the figure of six - for a long time I was guilty of thinking and saying that there was only 5.....


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#42 Post by D-Rider » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:46 pm

.... and nobody has ever reported one outside UK.

I guess someone with access to the DVLA database could find out how many were registered .... but not sure how you would go about finding such a person.

.... though I wonder whether a "freedom of information act" request might work - this is not personal info you are wanting, just the total number registered.
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#43 Post by Kwackerz » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:49 pm

You can cite ARS as a source of info to highlight how rare they are, this place is well known as a unofficial source of info on the Aprilia Falco.. as Alad says members of the site have researched the rarity of the green Falco. Griff would probably point them this way too. I doubt if anywhere on the planet has invested as much time into green falco spotting as here.
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#44 Post by Kwackerz » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:51 pm

D-Rider wrote:.... and nobody has ever reported one outside UK.

I guess someone with access to the DVLA database could find out how many were registered .... but not sure how you would go about finding such a person.

.... though I wonder whether a "freedom of information act" request might work - this is not personal info you are wanting, just the total number registered.

FOI request to DVLA for Aprilia SL1000 registered in UK between certain dates, with the colour 'Green' or whatever is stated on the logbook. That info should be readily searchable by DVLA in minutes few.

I did see a website about FOI requests, will try and search it out.
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#45 Post by Kwackerz » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:54 pm

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