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#16 Post by slickliner6 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:29 pm

paddyz1 wrote:We cannot change your mind.......


But

Does the wife want to do it?
Do the kids want to do it?
What do you think your kids life will be like with the other kids?.....They may get picked on etc.
I don't know anything about you or your family so these are just what i would be thinking and as kwak said.....the toilet.......nuff said
Thats what i was gonna say.
kids can be sooooo cruel,i would feel really sorry for your kids,because they WILL get loads of shite over it......"pikey" "bus house wankers"(ala the inbetweeners).........
Sorry mate,dont wanna be a hater,but you did want honest opinions. :smt001

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#17 Post by fatboy » Sat May 26, 2012 3:24 pm

Will, Ive lived in various vehicles most of my adult(?) life
I cant see me living in a house again !
Love the freedom and the fact that my nieghbours are my friends,happy for any of them to go into mine to use/borrow stuff.vice versa
Now the not good stuff, Ive faced a lot of hostility over the years, had rocks thrown thru windscreens, had a vintage Bedford coach destroyed by farmers with a JCB, scaffold bars thru the windows in the middle of the night,thankfully these have been few and far between incidents
If you have a safe park up that makes a big difference
I had a Bristol VRT double decker,vvv posh inside,granite worktops in kitchen,hot/cold running water,shower,wood burner that heated both up and downstairs (clever duct system)
A well insulated,well fitted out vehicle with a good burner... never cold in winter
Fuel bills can get high in winter(unless you have 240v hook up) Calor gas is $$$. If you all like the idea,do it
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#18 Post by fatboy » Sat May 26, 2012 3:52 pm

Im not sure I agree with the amount of ' predicted ' predudice the kids may face,we live in slightly more enlightened times but guess opinion varies from region to region

Yes you will lose some creature comforts but also gain others, my garden is aprox 2,000 acres with stunning views of the River Avon, Bath and parts of Bristol
There are many lower cost, sustainable solutions to points raised (power and sewage )
Im quite happy that my shit doesnt end up in the sea !
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#19 Post by Willopotomas » Sat May 26, 2012 7:40 pm

The wife isn't keen on the idea at all.. In fact she's pretty much vetoed the whole scheme.

Kids and bullies.. I was bullied at school for being the fat kid.. Always having the piss taken and having to deal with idiots, but that's what's made me who I am and one of the main reasons I take no shit from people. Personally, I wouldn't want the lads to go through the same thing, but we won't be travelling around the country hopping them from one school to another. Once they, and their classmates understand that the only difference between a house and a bus is a set of wheels, it won't be an issue. If I learnt that someone in my school lived on a bus, I'd be round there every day.. How cool to live in a bus!

Waste disposal.. In our houses we're used to having our waste taken care of for us. When it becomes our responsibility we treat it in a different light. When camping, we're more aware of the stuff we throw away and waste created. In these 'green' times, it can only be a good thing that the kids grow up learning how to consume less and generate less waste.

Space.. The confides of a tiny living area will be a challenge at first, granted, but how much space to we actually need? The room I'm sat in now has a load of stuff I either don't need, is broken, or being kept for a 'you never know' scenario. I could fill any space given to me with junk and other useless crap.. Take away that option, and I learn how to let things go and bin the rubbish.

Costs.. Just a short look at some figures shows me that running a normal house costs almost 50% more per annum than a bus would. This is taking in to account things like fuel, maintenance, insurances, pitches, taxes etc. For a start off, I'd be saving nearly £1300p/a in council tax. Road tax on a bus is £35 LESS p/a than the Galaxy and I won't be paying a huge sum in house rental.

I'm sold on the idea, and most of the bad points are based on opinion rather than fact, as are most of my good points. There will be pitfalls and obstacles to overcome, but most of them we'd get in a house anyway. For one problem we take away, another arises in a different format. It's a break from the norm, and people don't like it. The only way to know for sure is to give it a go.. If it turns out to be a massive failure, then so be it.. But at least we can say we gave it a shot.

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#20 Post by Kwackerz » Sat May 26, 2012 7:50 pm

How modern a bus are you thinking? The Neoplans look cool as aything and I reckon they'd last longer than some of the older ones
Summat like this converted http://autoline.info/sf/bus-double-deck ... 87500.html would be cool and modern internals would not be let down for looks by the outside

Saying that..

http://www.motorhomesusa.com/rental-Prevost.htm

is cool (yeah i know its not in UK or for sale) Maybe a big old winnie could fit the bill?
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#21 Post by Samray » Sat May 26, 2012 7:52 pm

You are insane to try and inflict that on people that don't want it. :smt118
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#22 Post by Willopotomas » Sat May 26, 2012 8:08 pm

In an ideal world I'd be able to have something to use as a 'trial run' for a couple of months while still keeping the house etc. Funds however dictate that this isn't possible.
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#23 Post by Falcorob » Sat May 26, 2012 8:28 pm

Willopotomas wrote:The wife isn't keen on the idea at all.. In fact she's pretty much vetoed the whole scheme.

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So are you getting a divorce as well then?

I'd be more than happy to give something like this a go but my missus likes the security of bricks and mortar so that's the end of that. Instead me and the lad will spend a week in France on the bikes and dream the dream.
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#24 Post by Kwackerz » Sat May 26, 2012 8:45 pm

Willopotomas wrote:In an ideal world I'd be able to have something to use as a 'trial run' for a couple of months while still keeping the house etc. Funds however dictate that this isn't possible.

Go camping for 3 weeks solid to provide an accelerated indicator of how things will go for all sides of life. If you can come out the end of that with a sense of humour intact, clean clothes, well fed and not tired then living in a Bus will be a doddle. It's all about being to square your admin away really, isnt it.

Pick somewhere random though, not a coastal amusement area where there's an escape from it. I'd say in a caravan though as opposed to a tent..

Ive had to live in some pretty random places with the job and i know a bus would be no problem, but looking at the wife, well.. mine would crack in about 4 days flat.. which was about all she managed in a trailer tent.

I still look at buses and winnies now n again but.. naah. not unless I can get a good exchange on the missus,
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#25 Post by fatboy » Sat May 26, 2012 9:47 pm

Will, Id say thats pretty good advice from Kwack, a good yardstick.
Weeks camping will always be rougher than weeks in a bus cos in a bus you always got a mattress,cooker,doors, windows,more than canvas to isolate you from the outside world
I started living like this over 30 yrs ago, (as a financial incentive ) its been so much fun Im still living like this, maybe Ive gone native !
No way it will ever be everyones cup of tea but my life is very low impact,sustainable,affordable (on my joke income ) do able :smt002
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#26 Post by Willopotomas » Sun May 27, 2012 9:02 am

Seems I can't quite break the deadlock with SWMBO. Seems we're doomed to have fuck all forever. :smt011
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#27 Post by D-Rider » Sun May 27, 2012 2:01 pm

Willopotomas wrote:Seems I can't quite break the deadlock with SWMBO. Seems we're doomed to have fuck all forever. :smt011
TBH, having each other is better - and I reckon things will work out for you with a place to call your own- given time and your ingenuity.
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#28 Post by BikerGran » Sun May 27, 2012 10:47 pm

My daughter and her partner lived in a campervan for four winters in the alps so they could spend their days snowboarding, and a couple of summers in other daughter's garden. Ok it was smaller than a double decker bus but there were only two of them and they were doing so they could play!

They had a great time but have now settled in a flat because they'd had enough of it. It sounds idyllic but there are all kinds of problems and it's not real life.

(Problems like, when it has to go in for repair or MOT - where do you live?)

If your other half doesn't want to do it then it won't work and even if you persuade her you run the risk of losing her and your kids.
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#29 Post by Willopotomas » Mon May 28, 2012 5:46 pm

BikerGran wrote:If your other half doesn't want to do it then it won't work and even if you persuade her you run the risk of losing her and your kids.
You're selling it to me with statements like that :smt003 :smt003 :smt005 :smt005

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#30 Post by fatboy » Mon May 28, 2012 8:16 pm

Will, it works for me ,it wont work for everyone,Kwack came up with some advice about roughing it,
from living like this its really not difficult to have a fairly civilised life.,
Jumping in at the deep end may be too much, Im sure you can book holidays on double deckers now,see how they feel with toes in the waters BG says dont force it cos it wont work but I dissagree about the rest of the statement... If you're living it then its real life
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