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fatboy · #16 Post by **fatboy** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:01 pm

May not be bad practice to use a cleaner every time ! Choice of the individual. If your bike is gonna be parked up in shite weather then a fuel stabiliser is not a bad idea as petrol rapidly becomes stale in plastic tanks (something to do with certian vapours escaping thru the odd molecular make up of plastic molecular stucture )

#17 Post by **mangocrazy** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:11 pm

fatboy wrote:My mate services petrol and diesel injectors and reckons a fuel system cleaner is as sensible as giving up smoking !

Especially when working in the vicinity of fuel...

#18 Post by **mangocrazy** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:14 pm

fatboy wrote:May not be bad practice to use a cleaner every time ! Choice of the individual. If your bike is gonna be parked up in shite weather then a fuel stabiliser is not a bad idea as petrol rapidly becomes stale in plastic tanks (something to do with certian vapours escaping thru the odd molecular make up of plastic molecular stucture )

Quite seriously, I think we should all be considering the effects increasing quantities of ethanol will have on our bikes. If there was a worthwhile fuel additive to combat the effects of ethanol I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Or fuel with zero ethanol content, of course...

D-Rider · #19 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:35 pm

mangocrazy wrote:
fatboy wrote:May not be bad practice to use a cleaner every time ! Choice of the individual. If your bike is gonna be parked up in shite weather then a fuel stabiliser is not a bad idea as petrol rapidly becomes stale in plastic tanks (something to do with certian vapours escaping thru the odd molecular make up of plastic molecular stucture )
Quite seriously, I think we should all be considering the effects increasing quantities of ethanol will have on our bikes. If there was a worthwhile fuel additive to combat the effects of ethanol I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Or fuel with zero ethanol content, of course...

anzacinexile · #20 Post by **anzacinexile** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:37 pm

Took Oliviers (Go-Modem-Go) advice when riding in France last year and only filled with 98 to get around the bio crap. Made a real difference after the 3rd tankful, baby just purred around Europe

blinkey501 · #21 Post by **blinkey501** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:56 am

I decided to look at oils for servicing my oasis and i typed in 15w50...
Right i was wondering if there was any difference in car and motorbike oils because......
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300637655671? ... 1423.l2649

If nobody is unsure sallys car is due a service and i might buy some of this oil and compare the labels on the back of the 15/50 motul oil i have left in the garage...

anzacinexile · #22 Post by **anzacinexile** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:25 am

blinkey501 wrote:I decided to look at oils for servicing my oasis and i typed in 15w50...
Right i was wondering if there was any difference in car and motorbike oils because......
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300637655671? ... 1423.l2649

If nobody is unsure sallys car is due a service and i might buy some of this oil and compare the labels on the back of the 15/50 motul oil i have left in the garage...

There's been endless discussions on the differences between car and bike oils. The consensus from the manufacturers is car oils contains additives which screw up a wet clutch and bike oils are better at dealing with the shearing from the gearbox.

My take is my Falco clutch is sensitive to oils (full synth made mine slip like a bugger) so I personally wont be experimenting with my baby

Salty · #23 Post by **Salty** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Out of interest, found this in a pdf brochure on the Rock Oil site:

blinkey501 · #24 Post by **blinkey501** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:18 pm

Watch this space....
I have just bought the oil to put in my wifes car and i will cross reference the specification with what went in the falco and is left over in the garage

anzacinexile · #25 Post by **anzacinexile** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:03 pm

Salty wrote:Out of interest, found this in a pdf brochure on the Rock Oil site:

I take exception to the comment that full synth wont make a clutch slip

The author wasn't riding my bike 20 miles after filling with Silkolene full synth when the bike could barely make progress up hills in the top gears because of vicious clutch slip. Got her home, dropped the stuff and refilled with Silkolene semi synth and after gently riding her for another 50 miles or so, the clutch stopped slipping and it hasn't slipped since and that was 40K miles ago

D-Rider · #26 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:32 am

anzacinexile wrote:
I take exception to the comment that full synth wont make a clutch slip

The author wasn't riding my bike 20 miles after filling with Silkolene full synth when the bike could barely make progress up hills in the top gears because of vicious clutch slip. Got her home, dropped the stuff and refilled with Silkolene semi synth and after gently riding her for another 50 miles or so, the clutch stopped slipping and it hasn't slipped since and that was 40K miles ago

Maybe should have included the word "usually".

I've always used fully-synth in my Falco until my most recent oil change (about 20 miles ridden since then). There again mine wasn't one of the early ones that sometimes suffer in this way

blinkey501 · #27 Post by **blinkey501** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:04 am

Ah right i could put fully synthetic in the oasis, What about the mercury.

D-Rider · #28 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:53 am

No whatever you do, don't put mercury in the Oasis. It's highly toxic and you shouldn't be handling it anyway.

... and I'm not sure at what point the clutches were improved. The Red ones and Black ones are susceptible, the Bronze, Flamingo Red and Green ones seem fine.
What I'm less clear about are the Blue ones, Grey ones and Yellow ones

wayofthedarkhand · #29 Post by **wayofthedarkhand** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:44 am

I heard a rumour that Murco don't (yet) have ethanol in their fuels. some stations however just fill up from the nearest supplier so not all use Murco fuels.

I've emailed head office to find out more.

D-Rider · #30 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:52 am

I've also heard that everywhere get their fuel from the same wholesale distributors and it doesn't matter where you buy it from.
.... and I've heard the opposite too.

I wish it was all a bit clearer.

Recently I saw a BP station having its tanks filled from an Asda tanker .... though that proves nothing either.

Hope your Murco enquiries bring us some degree of clarity.