Oil ..... I hadn't realised .....

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Willopotomas · #16 Post by **Willopotomas** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:49 pm

mangocrazy wrote:The only stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole is Rock Oil.

Could you elaborate on this?

Having a car with some weird injection system (VW PD engine), I've been trawling through different types of oil and specs. Seems that 5W/30 fully synth comes in many different varieties, as does semi-synth. Those who're having problems with a particular brand may be using a different spec to another.. It might be worth checking.

back_marker · #17 Post by **back_marker** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:03 pm

Willopotomas wrote:
mangocrazy wrote:The only stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole is Rock Oil.
Could you elaborate on this?

Having a car with some weird injection system (VW PD engine), I've been trawling through different types of oil and specs. Seems that 5W/30 fully synth comes in many different varieties, as does semi-synth. Those who're having problems with a particular brand may be using a different spec to another.. It might be worth checking.

Halfrauds and my local motor factors (Camberley Auto Factors) both sell VW/Audi specific 5W/30 oil at a reasonable price - meets their long-life standards according to the bottle

#18 Post by **mangocrazy** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:04 pm

Willopotomas wrote:
mangocrazy wrote:The only stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole is Rock Oil.
Could you elaborate on this?

It's probably an out-dated piece of bias on my part, but I used to hang about with a lot of racing types who were always on the look out for something better or cheaper (preferably both). A lot of them were swayed by the Rock Oil salesman's blandishments (and the discounts he offered) but were less than impressed when their formerly reliable motors started lunching themselves, big-style...

I'm sure it was all sorted out a long time ago, but I have a long memory.

Willopotomas · #19 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:27 am

back_marker wrote:Halfrauds and my local motor factors (Camberley Auto Factors) both sell VW/Audi specific 5W/30 oil at a reasonable price - meets their long-life standards according to the bottle

I tried Halfrauds and they've got fully synth in the grade I'm after, just not the spec. My local factors can't really get much closer as it's virtually next door..lol. They can get the oil, but's kin' expensive from them. I shall be using Oilman's "Opie Oils" place in the very near future as they give the best price overall for Fuchs oil and Mahle filters (delivered to me door too!).

mangocrazy wrote: I'm sure it was all sorted out a long time ago, but I have a long memory.

I can sympathise with your view on Rock Oil. I've heard of similar problems with Comma oils, so don't touch um. I've never tired them meself, so am only going by the opinion of other's. I can however vouch for Rock Oil.. Very high quality at a very reasonable price. We use their products in the workshop and know many people who swear by it.

zoidberg · #20 Post by **zoidberg** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:51 pm

D-Rider wrote:
Aladinsaneuk wrote:
and yes, pre 2002 falcos. its semi synth only - IN MY OPINION

HowardQ wrote:Exactly !!
That's not my point .... we all know that .....

What I was getting at is this:

I think that the general assumption had been that the oils that Aprilia recommended were fully synth but they gave dispensation to the riders of the old heaps to use 10-40 semi synth to stop their clutches from slipping.
At least, that was what I had previously believed.

Further digging has revealed that the recommended 15-50 oils are also semi synth (not fully synth)

There again, maybe it was just me who had this misunderstanding.

D-Rider wrote:
Aladinsaneuk wrote:Try 10/40 semi - a lot more choice then....
Nah - I'd sooner stick with what Aprilia chose to recommend rather than what they fell back on for the old nails with slippy clutches.

.... and I don't need a wider choice having found what I need

(yeah I know 10-40 should be OK but I'd prefer to stick with the 15-50 ..... I have, at least, moved away from fully synth this time)

Aladinsaneuk · #21 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Lol

It's standard piss take.... Like me referring to rust coloured falcos

zoidberg · #22 Post by **zoidberg** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:44 pm

Those ones that you see for sale and are mostly low mile mint condition because people are too embarrassed to actually ride them?

Aladinsaneuk · #23 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:19 pm

now you are getting the hand of it :)

and if you can get a swipe in at an admin - thats double bubble bonus points

D-Rider · #24 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:13 pm

zoidberg wrote:Those ones that you see for sale and are mostly low mile mint condition because people are too embarrassed to actually ride them?

What? are we discussing the black ones that do most of their mileage on top of breakdown trucks while their owners sit weeping in the cabs?

zoidberg · #25 Post by **zoidberg** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:18 pm

Nah they were a slow colour but the oil leaks/electrical fires make them them appear black

flatlander · #26 Post by **flatlander** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:33 pm

Surprisingly morrisons sell decent oil cheap and some of them sell coffee even though the may have a complete jobs worth at the till

HisNibbs · #27 Post by **HisNibbs** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:39 pm

I've used both fully and semi synthetic oils in my 2001 Falco and never had a trace of clutch slip with either.

Of late I've more often used semis from Motul and Rock Oil on the basis of price alone.

D-Rider · #28 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:02 pm

HisNibbs wrote:I've used both fully and semi synthetic oils in my 2001 Falco and never had a trace of clutch slip with either.

Of late I've more often used semis from Motul and Rock Oil on the basis of price alone.

I hear that Pete can manage no more than a semi ............

Aladinsaneuk · #29 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:04 pm

At your age, can you remember that Andy?

randomsquid · #30 Post by **randomsquid** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:38 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:At your age, can you remember that Andy?

You're asking Andy if he can remember when you couldn't manage more than a semi?

Something you want to tell us?