Funny you should say that .... it's already on my "to Do" listAladinsaneuk wrote:install UBitMenu andy - its free and will make you happier....
Going for Avast
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I've been using Comodo Anti Virus for about a year now and it seems ok, like you I had a problem with AVG (and then more of a problem removing it!). Comodo is free and has a built in firewall and sandbox feature (sandbox is when the AV will run programmes under supervison - good at catching unknowen programmes, you can tell it to ignore kosha ones)
http://www.comodo.com/products/free-products.php
http://www.comodo.com/products/free-products.php
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Noeli0 wrote:(sandbox is when the AV will run programmes under supervison - good at catching unknowen programmes, you can tell it to ignore kosha ones)
Too clever for me - I just want something that will do the job and not ask me anything!
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I was AVG, then crossed and tried the free Security Essentials (which is shit and misses loads of nasties) ive now setled on McAfee!!!! Its free with my BT acct and comes as 'BT Net Protect'.
AVG has slipped and to me McAfee has taken it's spot. Scarily ive found the BT version of McAfee to be bloody brilliant and wholly changed from its bloatware days.

AVG has slipped and to me McAfee has taken it's spot. Scarily ive found the BT version of McAfee to be bloody brilliant and wholly changed from its bloatware days.

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I'm about to download Avast but it says (quite obviously) that it won't work if you have another AV installed. What I'd like to do is to shut down AVG rather than uninstalling it immediately (just in case I want to go back to it however unlikely that seems), but I can't find any way to do that - can anyone help?
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Used to use AVG when it first came about. Then they got greedy, then it got shit. I switched to Avast about 6 years ago and haven't looked back. It's kin' brilliant.
McAfee.. ah.. good old McAfee. If it wasn't for that program, I know IT support bods who'd be out of a job. It causes more problems that it solves and is a bastard to get rid of if you decide to change vendors.
Avast all the way. You wont be disappointed.
McAfee.. ah.. good old McAfee. If it wasn't for that program, I know IT support bods who'd be out of a job. It causes more problems that it solves and is a bastard to get rid of if you decide to change vendors.
Avast all the way. You wont be disappointed.

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Willopotomas wrote:Used to use AVG when it first came about. Then they got greedy, then it got shit. I switched to Avast about 6 years ago and haven't looked back. It's kin' brilliant.
McAfee.. ah.. good old McAfee. If it wasn't for that program, I know IT support bods who'd be out of a job. It causes more problems that it solves and is a bastard to get rid of if you decide to change vendors.
Avast all the way. You wont be disappointed.
Have you tried the later McAffee? It's not like it used to be tbh, com pletely different beast. Norton and McAffee always used to be the bloatware kisses of death for computers, agreed, but I beg to differ with the BT Net Protect Plus version. Ive swapped it off one of my other lappys and it uninstalled with no pain at all (Which is the lappy im now running with a switched down AVG..) I assume BT have taken it on board with provisos that certain items are dropped off it's version as it feels very slimmed, stable and less intrusive than AVG's current offering... which is a novelty for something labelled McAffee..
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The BT version may have changed but I don't think the regular version has. We had a new PC put in at work last week.. It was running fine until the office numpty signed up and installed the McAfee bundle. What a game.. In the end it was wiped clean and had to start from scratch.. This was on a brand new PC straight out the box.. Nothing that's been kicking around for 6 months.
It caused a massive head ache as some job cards and invoices were lost in the process. McAfee flagged up the process inspection system as being a 'threat' so closed all the doors. Not only did it do that, but it froze the e-mail system, internal network and internet connections. About the only thing we could do with it was play freecell, use paint.. oh, and turn it off..lol.
It caused a massive head ache as some job cards and invoices were lost in the process. McAfee flagged up the process inspection system as being a 'threat' so closed all the doors. Not only did it do that, but it froze the e-mail system, internal network and internet connections. About the only thing we could do with it was play freecell, use paint.. oh, and turn it off..lol.
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There are different versions of each product so for example McAfee has a retail version and a corporate version which tends to give less problems. Even so it fairly regularly releases an update which doesn't like outlook. From memory it is a known "feature" and requires either changing a setting uninstalling the later search functions in outlook (instant search / desktop search) or disabling one of the "features" in the AV.
Most AV programs don't like more than one being installed at the same time but (generally) as long as only one is active you should be ok.
It is in fact better to use a variety of programs if you think you have an infection and most can be controlled via a mix of stopping services (start- run- Services.msc - ok or enter) and or task manager. If outlook hangs kill it first via task manager (stop all instances of outlook.exe) then use services to kill the offending program. You can also use msconfig to start the machine excluding other programs to eliminate which are the offending ones
That said as will found out often it is quicker easier and less painful to reinstall but who really backs up all their data ;)
If you want to make life easier when the machine is running great make a copy using something like Ghost (norton) and make regular data backups then when it breaks reinstall and copy data back
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Most AV programs don't like more than one being installed at the same time but (generally) as long as only one is active you should be ok.
It is in fact better to use a variety of programs if you think you have an infection and most can be controlled via a mix of stopping services (start- run- Services.msc - ok or enter) and or task manager. If outlook hangs kill it first via task manager (stop all instances of outlook.exe) then use services to kill the offending program. You can also use msconfig to start the machine excluding other programs to eliminate which are the offending ones
That said as will found out often it is quicker easier and less painful to reinstall but who really backs up all their data ;)
If you want to make life easier when the machine is running great make a copy using something like Ghost (norton) and make regular data backups then when it breaks reinstall and copy data back
Here endeth ....

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That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
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If it were my choice I would suggest a mac for a lot of people as they just work once you have them setup but since a lot of the stuff people want now has to play nice with MS and other stuff unless you are confident or know nothing else first you may need a more familiar face
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Says he from his iPhone in a small village in Spain ;)
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock