That "NO START" message .... how do you make it ha

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Falcopops · #16 Post by **Falcopops** » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:26 pm

IIRC it's 62k ohms, but I'll check to make sure.

zoidberg · #17 Post by **zoidberg** » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:37 pm

Thanks f'pops

Falcopops · #18 Post by **Falcopops** » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:57 pm

Damn, my head is full of stuff that I don't really know why, but is right, here's the link.

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/show ... m+resistor

zoidberg · #19 Post by **zoidberg** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:38 am

Great stuff, I'll grab a resistor from Maplin and pop it in.

fatboy · #20 Post by **fatboy** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:14 pm

If you take the top off the switch you will see a piece of tube with a brass ring that can slide from one side of the switcht to the other where the fuel cut out contacts are,
I simply taped the brass ring in the centre of the tube so it cannot move and cannot cut the fuel supply, 10 to 15 mins of work,cost nil

zoidberg · #21 Post by **zoidberg** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:30 pm

Oh right, I'll take a look at that.

zoidberg · #22 Post by **zoidberg** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:41 pm

Ok, where exactly is the little beastie?

D-Rider · #23 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:20 pm

At the front of the void under the rider's seat .... but I don't really know why you'd want to be fiddling about with this - as long as they are properly mounted, they seldom play up.

fatboy · #24 Post by **fatboy** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:49 pm

Seldom means erm seldom, so like any electrical switch they can cause mischief.
Whether it is a case of the tube that the contact ring sits on some how shrinks, allowing it a too easy path of travel to cut out contacts ?
All I can say is mine went from working fine to demon that made me cancell an MOT in around 15 mins of fettling

zoidberg · #25 Post by **zoidberg** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:57 pm

I don't want to play with it. It's causing the no start message on my dash. It has to go.

fatboy · #26 Post by **fatboy** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:16 pm

Very similar problems to you, worked fine then did not. If the bike was upright then all was good, put it on the sidestand and it would not start, the sliding contact seemed to stick on the cut out contact aand did not want to move to its neutral position.
Remove rider seat, above battery,on left, small black box with silver lid,held by rubber rubber thingy that holds relays/flasher unit to frame,lift out of position, release from retainer, remove lid and tape sliding contact in middle, simple when you see it

zoidberg · #27 Post by **zoidberg** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:21 am

I removed the switch and soldered a 62k ohm resistor in its place.

Sorted.

Thanks for the help guys.

Sixty7 · #28 Post by **Sixty7** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:47 pm

zoidberg wrote:Excellent stuff, do you know the resistance?

Not really fixed as it's come up on the dash again today on ur old bike.....

Dalemac · #29 Post by **Dalemac** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:24 pm

Sixty7 wrote:
zoidberg wrote:Excellent stuff, do you know the resistance?
Not really fixed as it's come up on the dash again today on ur old bike.....

Soldering worked its way loose on the resistor?

D-Rider · #30 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:56 pm

As I've posted elsewhere, "No Start does not mean you have a tip-over sensor problem.

It means that the bike is failing to start .... for some reason .... tip over switch is one of the possible causes but it's only one possibility.